Sorry, not my words...
http://community.evo.co.uk/users/Mon...is-pants-ducks
And in response...:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...he-mazda-mx-5/
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Sorry, not my words...
http://community.evo.co.uk/users/Mon...is-pants-ducks
And in response...:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...he-mazda-mx-5/
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dang id figure there would be more responses lol
Some people have to work during the day. :tooth:
I liked this reply when asked for something in a price range competing with the miata.Quote:
As for alternatives, well, I'm not sure the ideal budget sporting roadster exists: certainly I think the mk3 MR2 does the job better than the MX-5.
I don't think the author of the Truth about cars article knows that Chris Harris is actually a very good driver, and it does make sense that he wouldn't like a bone stock miata after all the cars he's raced. Not saying I agree with the entire article, I just like the MR2's mention.
Sounds like someone wanted some attention, or just felt like baiting Miata owners. I think he was just trying to get a bunch of hits on the website. While I'm clearly biased in favor of the Miata, the existance of SpecMiata, MX5 Cup and other such examples makes it hard to beleive that there are so many enthusiasts in the world who are unable to discern a good sports car from a poor one.
I've driven a fair number and variety of sports cars, and while there are definitely examples of cars that are more exciting and powerful, I have hardly driven any that compare to the Miata in terms of "pure driving joy." By that, I mean that it is fun, in more driving situations, than almost anything else. The Mustang GT I owned rattled and squeaked a bunch, had an awful ride, and was downright scary at the limits. Also, it had stupid-hight insurance costs.
The Alfa Romeo GTV-6 was a hoot, but had a sloppy tranny, downright wierd controls, impossibly hard seats, not to mention less-than-stellar reliability.
The 350Z was cool, fast, and had a fighter-plane cockpit, but really didn't turn all that well and got tail-happy very easily. Also a bit scary at the limits.
I can go on, as many others on here could do to a greater extent (KenO), but my point is that I can drive my Miata every day and have fun even in crappy traffic on crappy roads, I can frop the top on any day the weather is even slightly good and have fun, and on the right roads, I can drive it at the limit without crapping my pants or risking life and limb, which is fun.
Can anyone show me another "classic british roadster-style" car that comes close? Love the S2K, but its a different animal, MR2's are nifty, but again, not really the same thing. What else is there? BMW Z's? Porsche Boxter? Only if you double the price...
As a huge Chris Harris fan, I feel his post is a bit extreme (most likely to draw traffic), but also valid in a few ways.
Keeping in mind his comments are about stock oem Miatas, and coming from the viewpoint of someone who regularly drives supercars, exotics, GT race cars, and races in VLN races in a 911 GT3, I can understand his viewpoint.
If you frequently read his reviews, and column, he feels that one of the most defining characteristics of a sports car is excitement. Miata's are excellent cars and when prepped for racing are exciting, but when you look at a standard stock MX-5, exciting is not really a term used to describe it.
You can actually read his review of the NC MX-5 on autocar.co.uk, and does have some compliments for it as well.
In fact the concept of excitement is why I bought the S2000 instead of the NC. I feel pretty confident that when fully prepped for STR the NC is most likely the faster car (on most courses), and easier to drive. However, nothing about the NC really got me excited about it as a car to own and drive everyday.
I've got to LOL at the idiots who think the Miata is a 10 second 1/4 mile, sub 7m30s Nurburgring supercar. It isn't. One quick look at how much power it has should tell people that. But apparently they don't get that clue.
It's designed for handling, and with the right suspension/tire/wheel mods it will hang, and sometimes even pass, much more expensive and powerful cars - provided it's piloted by a good driver. Great performance for cheap...what's not to like?
I would put the MR2 closer to S2000 price range.
I haven't seen too many stooks going for ~7-8kQuote:
Originally Posted by Nails
I thought we were talking about MSRP's not used values.
Even new, the MR2 msrp was around 23-24k, and 0 options (leather was a port/dealer option) meant that was what most sold for (assuming dealer wasn't marking them up). S2K was ~8k more than the MR2 new, and that was on purpose, Toyota knew they didn't have a vehicle that could compete with the stook so they didn't want to price it to compete with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nails
Luis, what is that .gif from?
NVM, friend found it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4MRo4QONQ4