anyone race without the rear sway bar?

Seems like the rear sway bar will do little to nothing for planting the rear tires, especially if the car is race-lightened.

Wondering if people are removing it for autocross/roadrace ?

Jay Johnson

Most/all of the STS guys run with no rear bar.

I don't use a rear sway bar on my CSP car for autocross. I have been trying a couple of different rear sway bars on the track, but have not been happy with either. So, I have decided to follow Carroll Smith's recommendation and not use one on the track either.

I've been meaning to remove mine for an event, to try it out but I'm lazy. Also, worried about feel. I like a car that rotates quickly, but if it's faster then maybe I can just deal with it.

Ya kids do know you can just disconnect one of the sway-bar end links to test it out. ;-)

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Originally Posted by blackzx3_13

I've been meaning to remove mine for an event, to try it out but I'm lazy. Also, worried about feel. I like a car that rotates quickly, but if it's faster then maybe I can just deal with it.

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Originally Posted by POS Racing

Ya kids do know you can just disconnect one of the sway-bar end links to test it out. ;-)

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Highlighted the important part.

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Originally Posted by blackzx3_13

Highlighted the important part.

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Bless your 'lil heart. ::Grouphug

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Originally Posted by POS Racing

Ya kids do know you can just disconnect one of the sway-bar end links to test it out. ;-)

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I've tried that. The first session I unhooked the driver's side. The second session, I unhooked the passenger's side. Third session, I unhooked both sides. Honestly, I couldn't tell any difference at all.::EvilBana::Drive1::

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I've tried that. The first session I unhooked the driver's side. The second session, I unhooked the passenger's side. Third session, I unhooked both sides. Honestly, I couldn't tell any difference at all.::EvilBana::Drive1::

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:facepalm:

I used to keep a wrench and the bolt in my glove box in case I wanted to reconnect it...
I am not sure where the bolt has gone, and I put the wrench back in the tool box.
I should just remove the bar.

^::Whisp::pssssttt....wanna buy a wrench? a bolt? a bar?

On track with Toyo RRs:
A. With a RB Front Bar:
I ran a stock 11mm bar for a long time and the car had a little understeer and couldn't get the car to rotate or slide all 4 tires.
Last year I put on a 15mm MSM bar. The car felt balanced, it would rotate and get it to slide properly.

B. Now with a 27mm front bar and 15mm rear bar, it's very balanced. No understeer and rotates well.

Emilio's setup guide recomends a 14mm bar: http://949racing.com/SuperMiata-sway-bar-kit-miata.aspx

I keep the little stock rear bar on the car, but only connect it when running on grippy concrete surfaces.

I think most people will be faster with no rear bar. I prefer no bar or a big rear bar but not a small rear bar.