Looking for nice wheels...

I've been searching all over the internet for a good wheel deal. I found some great looking wheels from Good Win Racing out of San Diego. They're the Nippon F2 15x6.5 five spoke wheel and I think they look great! Plus, they're available in gunmetal! Woohooo!!

Unless, of course, I find a nice used set of light 15" rims. (I'm working on my qualifications for induction into team CB)

What size tire is best for a 6.5" or 7" rim?

Lorenzo

P.S. I got off air at 11pm, its 2:25am and I can't sleep because I've got a fever of 101. Argh...

If you're going to go to 15" check out Konig Heliums. I saw them at one of the miata.net marketplace vendors for $95 or $99 each. BTW, purchasing those wheels would automatically disqualify you from being a member of Team CB. :wink:

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...BTW, purchasing those wheels would automatically disqualify you from being a member of Team CB.

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And would take you out of Stock class in autocross... if that's of any concern. Of course, you could keep your OEM wheels for AX, and just use the new Koenig's for a little 8). I like those Heliums, and have been seriously considering a set (bronze) for my street bling. And they would look good on your ride.

Drive fast! :D

Either one of those would be an excellent choice for a reasonably strong, lightweight, and inexpensive wheel. Also, if you like the style of the Nippon F2, search around the web for Rota Slipstreams - identical wheel (they're both cast copies of an old forged Mugen wheel design), available in lots of different colors, and often on sale somewhere.

By the way, the same offset and bolt pattern that works on Miatas also works on Civics, Integras, and many other older Hondas, so surfing the web for places where riceboys are selling used parts (like The Parts Trader or ebay) can net you a deal. Warning: I usually don't buy used parts from people I don't know, because there are way too many unscrupulous a**holes out there selling stuff. Your mileage may vary. However, you may find the bargain of the century, if you look hard enough.

Some 1-year old, 15 x 6.5 konig heliums sold last night on ebay for $305. They were in excellent shape. It was $50 more than I was willing to pay.

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It was $50 more than I was willing to pay.

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Joe,
You buckin' for a Team CB sticker or what? :wink:

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Some 1-year old, 15 x 6.5 konig heliums sold last night on ebay for $305. They were in excellent shape. It was $50 more than I was willing to pay.

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Good call... they'd only be $400 brand new. $305 used, in unknown condition (I'm sure the ad said they were in pristine condition), from an unfamiliar source is no bargin. And you'd still have to add on shipping and handling...

If I were to replace my 14" OEM wheels with different 14" OEM wheels, would that kick me out of STOCK class?

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If I were to replace my 14" OEM wheels with different 14" OEM wheels, would that kick me out of STOCK class?

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Da SCCA Rules State :
13.4 Wheels
Any type wheel may be used provided it complies with the following: it is the same width and diameter as standard, and as installed (including wheel spacers if applicable) it does not have an offset more than +/- 0.25 inch from a standard wheel for the car. The resultant change in track dimensions is allowed. Vehicles originally equipped only with 12 inch diameter wheels, may use 13 inch diameter wheels of the same width as standard and offset within +/- 0.25 inch of standard.

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If I were to replace my 14" OEM wheels with different 14" OEM wheels, would that kick me out of STOCK class?

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Da SCCA Rules State :
13.4 Wheels
Any type wheel may be used provided it complies with the following: it is the same width and diameter as standard, and as installed (including wheel spacers if applicable) it does not have an offset more than +/- 0.25 inch from a standard wheel for the car. The resultant change in track dimensions is allowed. Vehicles originally equipped only with 12 inch diameter wheels, may use 13 inch diameter wheels of the same width as standard and offset within +/- 0.25 inch of standard.

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:shock: So then, that's a NO ?

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If I were to replace my 14" OEM wheels with different 14" OEM wheels, would that kick me out of STOCK class?

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Da SCCA Rules State :
13.4 Wheels
Any type wheel may be used provided it complies with the following: it is the same width and diameter as standard, and as installed (including wheel spacers if applicable) it does not have an offset more than +/- 0.25 inch from a standard wheel for the car. The resultant change in track dimensions is allowed. Vehicles originally equipped only with 12 inch diameter wheels, may use 13 inch diameter wheels of the same width as standard and offset within +/- 0.25 inch of standard.

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:shock: So then, that's a NO ?

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It's a conditional no. Buying any old 14" wheels will likely kick you out of Stock, because the OEM wheels on your car are 14"x5.5", while most aftermarket wheels are a different width.

Of course, seeing as how Treibenschnell has already removed the OEM airbag steering wheel (a technical no-no in SCCA Stock classes :wink: ), buying non-legal wheels wouldn't really make a difference.

FWIW, the Miata OEM wheels (at least those in 14" & 15" sizes) are typically as light as you'll find without spending big bucks on properly-sized, imported, Japanese, one-piece, forged wheels. That's why a lot of us (myself included) run aftermarket wheels on the street, and save the stockers for racing.

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FWIW, the Miata OEM wheels (at least those in 14" & 15" sizes) are typically as light as you'll find without spending big bucks on properly-sized, imported, Japanese, one-piece, forged wheels. That's why a lot of us (myself included) run aftermarket wheels on the street, and save the stockers for racing.

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Yep, what he said. Of course, I have two sets of OEM wheels right now -- one for AX and one for Street. I guess what I need to do is buy a third set for Street... maybe some nice Heliums or Koesi K1's... and make that second set of OEM's my track wheels. 8)

My wife would love that...

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FWIW, the Miata OEM wheels (at least those in 14" & 15" sizes) are typically as light as you'll find without spending big bucks on properly-sized, imported, Japanese, one-piece, forged wheels. That's why a lot of us (myself included) run aftermarket wheels on the street, and save the stockers for racing.

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I'm looking at getting some 14" Miata wheels that came on the '94-'97 models. I like the looks better, plus they will be at least 1 lb. lighter each than the ones I have now.

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I'm looking at getting some 14" Miata wheels that came on the '94-'97 models. I like the looks better, plus they will be at least 1 lb. lighter each than the ones I have now.

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Two words... OEM BBS 8) Those 14" OEM BBS "wire wheels" look fantastic!

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I'm looking at getting some 14" Miata wheels that came on the '94-'97 models. I like the looks better, plus they will be at least 1 lb. lighter each than the ones I have now.

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Two words... OEM BBS 8) Those 14" OEM BBS "wire wheels" look fantastic!

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I have to agree! I like those wheels a lot too. (Not to mention they only weigh 8.5 lbs. each!) The problem is POS is hoarding all of them west of the Mississippi!

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The problem is POS is hoarding all of them west of the Mississippi!

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Hey I resemble that comment! :thumleft:

I also like the look of these rims in a 15" size (The ASA are more "cost effective" :wink: )
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheel..._rgf_ci3_l.jpg http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheel..._ar1_ci3_l.jpg

I run the POS throught the Tire Rack Wheel Selector on a regular basis!

What I need to find is a nice 15" wheel I could use on either the POS or Vivid! Now that would be sweet! :D

Heliums would work on both...

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Heliums would work on both...

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ya, go buy some freakin' Helium's today! If you sell me a set of your BBS's, you'll have at least 1/2 of the money! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

No, no, no... sell me your BBS for half of the half you were going to peddle them off to poor sammm for and I'll give them a good home.

See, then I save sammm and POS quite the headache!

:D

Heck, for half of the half of the half you were going to peddle them off to poor sammm, I'll take them off your hands and put them on my '99. Wouldn't you just love to see those 14" wheels on a NB? 8)

Personally, I think you should auction them off to the highest bidder, and the graciously donate the proceeds to support the Team Cheap Bastard assault on the National Tour. We promise to spend your money wisely... :P

Here's a shot of my favorite BBS wheels.... mine!

http://hometown.aol.com/rattieface/images/Sled2.jpg

17" RX's.... love them!

And no, sammm, you can't have them! ;)

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What I need to find is a nice 15" wheel I could use on either the POS or Vivid! Now that would be sweet! :D

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If Rota really does decide to come out with 15" RBs (Panasport lookalikes), I'm thinking a set of those with a black or gunmetal center and polished lip would look sweet on both the POS Racer and I.M. Vivid's car. 8)

I'd like a set with gold centers myself. :afro:

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Here's a shot of my favorite BBS wheels.... mine!

http://hometown.aol.com/rattieface/images/Sled2.jpg

17" RX's.... love them!

And no, sammm, you can't have them! ;)

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That's a nice lookin' car... for a Passat. Can't say I blame you for shaving the VW emblem, though. :P

Sorry.... here's the updated photo! I had that silly windshield sticker for a club show last year....

http://hometown.aol.com/lobichb5/images/lrs111.jpg

Clean and debadged is the only way to go!

And I'm done showing off...

well...

ok....



I'm done. :D

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Of course, seeing as how Treibenschnell has already removed the OEM airbag steering wheel (a technical no-no in SCCA Stock classes :wink: ), buying non-legal wheels wouldn't really make a difference.

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Seeing as how I bought it like that... I'll have to find a stock steering wheel now! :shock: :P :D

Keep the wheel, stay in stock. Unless you are SUPER DUPER competetive, ad/or go to Nationals no one should hassle you about it.

It's not like you have a turbo hiding under the hood.

Chris

My new 2003 Miata came from the dealer with the Enkei RSF-2's on it...

18" rims with some 215 size tires (LOW profile) 8)

Talk about bling-bling!

http://www.enkei.com/PerfSpecPAGES/rsf-2Specs.html

After I get my car page set up, I'll link to some pics of it...

Dunno the weight on them, but I've gotten lots of pr0ps from 'em. The chix love 'em (much to the anger of the wife) hahahaha

Raymond

18's!! Get any rubbing?

I had some 17's that would occasionally rub at stock height.

Chris

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What I need to find is a nice 15" wheel I could use on either the POS or Vivid! Now that would be sweet! :D

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If Rota really does decide to come out with 15" RBs (Panasport lookalikes), I'm thinking a set of those with a black or gunmetal center and polished lip would look sweet on both the POS Racer and I.M. Vivid's car. 8)

I'd like a set with gold centers myself. :afro:

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What POS forgot to mention is that I want a nice set of Chrome wheels for Vivid.

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What I need to find is a nice 15" wheel I could use on either the POS or Vivid! Now that would be sweet! :D

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If Rota really does decide to come out with 15" RBs (Panasport lookalikes), I'm thinking a set of those with a black or gunmetal center and polished lip would look sweet on both the POS Racer and I.M. Vivid's car. 8)

I'd like a set with gold centers myself. :afro:

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What POS forgot to mention is that I want a nice set of Chrome wheels for Vivid.

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That would work out perfectly! POS sells me a set of his collection of BBS's, puts your wheels on the 92C and buys you what you want! What more could you ask for?!?!?! :wink:

No rubbing yet with the 18's...

Plenty of clearance on the fender with the 215 size tire

RJ

Wow, I was thinking of bidding on these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=43955 when they were $100, but its getting crazy now.

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Wow, I was thinking of bidding on these http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=43955 when they were $100, but its getting crazy now.

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Did you see these Joe ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2469852177

Those look rough...and heavy. Good thing is that I don't NEED wheels.

By the way, for those looking for alternate, E/C Stock legal wheels, Jon W informed me of these TSW Razors today. They're available in 14"x5.5" and 15"x6" sizes - you heard me right, they're available in OEM Miata sizes... and at a pretty decent price, too. :shock:

You E Stockers might really want to check them out - $90 each in your size ($131 each in 15"x6" size, unfortunately, which is about what the OEMs go for through Mazdacomp). They aren't that bad looking, although I haven't got a clue what they weigh. Anyway, just FYI.

Edit: Whoops, looks like the offset might be too shallow for them to be legal in E Stock (+35mm). Isn't the OEM offset +45 on the older cars?

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Edit: Whoops, looks like the offset might be too shallow for them to be legal in E Stock (+35mm). Isn't the OEM offset +45 on the older cars?

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Yes, the offset of the NA OEM wheels is 45. (We prefer classic, not older! :wink: )

I tried to look - mostly curiosity since I have a hookup through the antithesis of TCB and only buy my wobble wheels locally.

Using the link posted here, all I got was a HackerSafe commercial.

I have a lead on a very nice set of 14" OEM BBS's with caps and wrench for $750. :shock:

Accepting all thoughts/comments/bashing now. (BTW, those would be almost 4 lbs. lighter per wheel than the ones I'm currently running.)