Looks like BFG has an RS3 destroyer. From the testing at NOLA yesterday this appears to be the hot new street tire.
Price is competitive to the RS3 with the 225/45/15 size.
Tire rack
Everyones thoughts?
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Looks like BFG has an RS3 destroyer. From the testing at NOLA yesterday this appears to be the hot new street tire.
Price is competitive to the RS3 with the 225/45/15 size.
Tire rack
Everyones thoughts?
Competition is a good thing. We'll have to see how it does when air temp is >100 degrees.
More stuff on it - http://www.onehotlap.com/2013/01/bfg...-thickens.html
Also no 14" size available..... :-(
The Rival's tread depth is only 7/32 (note that SCCA requires tread depth >7/32 on new tires for them to be legal). The Direzza ZII's tread depth is 9/32 for the larger tires and 8/32 for the smaller ones! It would be interesting to find out how the times would compare with the same tread depth.
$244 more than RS3s per set in 255/40-17. :(
Too expensive for what it is.
Not for those who require 140+ treadwear tires for competition purposes...
$24 more than a set of RS3 in 225/45/15. Outrun and outlast the RS3, yet its too expensive for what it is?
I think this tire crosses the line of a “street tire” and needs to go straight to the exclusion list because of its lack of tread. No TW spec yet.
I need to cancel my order for the ZII and just run my old RS3’s till they come out in April or May for my sizes.
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The picture on Tire Rack site shown 200TW on the tire.
Dang these are cheap in 285/35/20, just about 300 bucks cheaper than anything else decent.
So if they are molded at 7.1/32 dp then they are legal, at 7.0/32 they are not. It will be Interesting to see how SCCA rules on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
I have canceled my ZII order, and I am going to see how this turns out.
I will stick with my Dunlop ZII for the early months and switch to either the BFG, Hankook, or who knows in May or June.
Nice first-impression, but it means nothing to me until they are used in an autox-setting. Unless they are 0.5 sec faster on a 60 sec course, I have to consider issues like heat tolerance, durability (#of heat cycles), min operating temp and price before I jump in. The only reason I'm considering the ZII's is that they are an evolution of an established winner in the Z1.
For Nats, they might be "the" tire to have to trophy, but I'll stick with a known quantity until someone actually autocrosses one. I have yet to see a tire that didn't compromise in one area to improve in another. Good luck to the early adopters!
Interestingly, they are $40 more in 255/40-17 than in 245/40-17. Under $150/tire in 225/50-16, which would fit my FD wheels...
contemplating...
I just noticed that some of them have 3 racial grooves and some have 2 and much larger tread blocks. The one they tested had 2.
Hmmmm;)
would you also try to run a foot race in deep sea diver boots?
Ok, you lost me there, Capt. Nemo.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkSipe
I usually say "it's like running the 40 in galoshes".Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkSipe
Quote:
Originally Posted by OZMDD
try putting down and stepping away from the heaping helping of ZOMG ...
http://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-racing-2...0/#post4414641
Pricing has been fluctuating a TON. S2K sizes have gone down while the one I'm keeping my eyes on went up $25 overnight :(
The stated weights make no sense. Rudy at TR tells me they will update that info when they actually have the tires and can weigh them in-person. Seeing as BFG is specifically targeting the ST and RT market, I expect they will be similar to the existing choices, but we will see.
I ordered a set and then they called the next day to say they were refunding me $10 a tire!Quote:
Originally Posted by BMcCann
Yea but aren't you a founding member of the "Set of a Tires A Month Club"?? ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Davidss
Since you are a big time SCCA National Champ Autocrosser who What are your thought on the BFG Rival Davidss???
Being The Champ comes with responsibilities to your community. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
(255mm and narrower sizes feature a 3-rib design, while 265mm and wider sizes use a 4-rib pattern)Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
Sorry I didn't get invited to be wined and dined by BFG.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
good callQuote:
Originally Posted by Davidss
apparently me deep sea diver comment was incorrect if the revised weights on TR are now fully accurate
which only goes to show why all this early ZOMG BS is just early ZOMG BS ....
terry fair over at vorshlag was at the event. he posted on FB that the BFG slick pulled something like 1.3g on a skid pad with a NC and the rival pulled 1.1 iirc
Looks like they are now 7.2/32" instead of just 7/32" Guess they are now SCCA legal?
I figured they'd have to be >7/32 since BFG was specifically targeting the SCCA and Lemons/Chump market. Nice to have another good option. Jrj512s results this morning suggest the Z2 is going to be another top choice.
Ordered my BFG tires, looks like I am going to get a free BFG Jacket for ordering early.
^Look forward to your findings Robert.
No sure if this vid link will work - http://www.facebook.com/video/embed?...05409792834818
It's time for new tires for me too, so maybe ill give these a try and see what happens..
Mmmm...First in line - Mike from Dallas?????????Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Somebody is keeping secrets from the group.......Quote:
Originally Posted by wrx74
Hehe, they busted me. So much for trying a new wheel/tire size combo stealthily, since there are only two sizes currently shipping. They did call me today to get my jacket size!
Ran a PCA event on the rivals today. Concrete, temps in the low 50s for am runs, mid 60s in the pm. First impression; best first run grip of any tire I've ever run. Better cool grip than a Z1. Ran a very solid first run immediately. Turn in is fantastic, very crisp. Going to have to back off a bit on slaloms and offsets compared to the RS3.
Afternoon, the grip improved, but not as dramatically as an RS3. Overall grip is pretty similar to the kook, but you get much more of it right away. They do "plant" and grip better with a direction change and then back on the throttle.
You cannot run as low air pressures as the kooks. I dropped 2 psi in the last few runs to see how much grip could be had, and they got really loose and sloppy. Didn't ever really get them hot like a summer event, but they were back to back runs with maybe 2 min between the last three runs. I dont think they were going off from heat, just too little pressure, though it was a similar sensation to overheated Star Specs.
No doubt, they are a different-handling tire than the main competitors, so its tough for me to speak too definitively at this point. Overall, I was impressed, and would venture to say they are an ideal choice for cool weather autox.