onlinetires.com has them on sale in 195/50/15 for $60 each
http://ec-securehost.com/OnlineTires...OXES_T1-R.html
I just ordered mine, I'll let you guys know what I think. They're supposed to have a thicker sidewall than the T1-S's, we shall see.
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onlinetires.com has them on sale in 195/50/15 for $60 each
http://ec-securehost.com/OnlineTires...OXES_T1-R.html
I just ordered mine, I'll let you guys know what I think. They're supposed to have a thicker sidewall than the T1-S's, we shall see.
I was playing around with different quantities on the site to see if we could get a better deal if we ordered together. They won't show shipping prices on 6 or more tires... says you have to call them. The interesting thing is that they say 8 tires are 208 lbs. That's 26 lbs per tire. :punchout: The Tire Weight database on Miata.net shows that the T1-S was 17.4 lbs. Did the T1-Rs really gain 8.6 lbs, or is OnlineTires helping to cover the low price by fudging with shipping charges?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
OK... Toyo's spec sheet says 17 lbs. for T1R 195/50/15, so it sounds like Online tires is taking a little off the top of the shipping charges.
I'll agree with you. I figured they added some weight in or were actually putting them in boxes. 104lbs for 4 cost $45.33 to ship. Really not too bad if they're price gouging on shipping.
Can't wait to get them though.
ordered mine
I hope you have good luck with T-1R. My T1-S is a piece of sXXX :mad:
Really? I loved my T1-S... as street tires. They didn't do that well as street/AX tires, but just for the street, they were pretty nice. In fact, I'll probably go back to them (from the Azenis I now have) once I need new [street] tires. Unless I decide to give those Hankooks that tailchaser raves about a try. Anyway, what did you not like about them gab? I'm just curious...Quote:
Originally Posted by gabkwong
They don't grip at all in less than hot ambient temp.! Getting out of the back alley of my house in the morning in the winter and spring, a little more gas made the rear end slided out. Wheels spin at red light in the first couple of miles too. The worse is the wet grip.
Going to work I have to stop at a red light on top of the hill. Usually the sprinklers leave the asphalt wet (but no puddles). I have to start with 2nd gear to get going. On first grear, the rear wheels spin and the car goes side way! The tires are 1 year old with about 50% usable thread left.
I have no confidence on these tires at all in wet and cold! T1-S is a good summer tire; when it is dry and hot.
The only good thing I can say about these tires is the price. It is cheapest summer tires you can get when it is on sale.
May be the new compound takes care of the wet and cold grip problem.
Just took a look at my tracking number via Fedex and sure enough, weight for two tires is 34 pounds. So Fedex and Toyo agree, Onlinetire taking some gravy.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Not that I agree with that move... but they figure they'll make it up somehow... rat bastards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
Just for fun, do you have the dimensions and from zip? I would go out and see what the rate is from Fed-ex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
Well, you also gotta figure in their cost of labor, packing, and handling... everyplace out there does the same damned thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
I know... I would just like to see what there "handling" charge is.... By the way...Interesting Sig. :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
It should be listed on his invoice... I'd like to see it as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
What? I don't know what you're talking about... not a clue. None. Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
They're supposed to arrive today. I tried to look it up through the web site, but I don't have a zip or address to get a zip. So when they get here, I'll post the info.
Yeah but gab you can't run your adjustable shocks at full hard all around, and put 43 PSI in each tire and expect any grip... :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by gabkwong
The only complaint I've heard about the T1Ss is that they are a little soft on turn-in, so they should be great street tires (you're not driving 10/10ths on the street anyway, are you?). On the other hand, I'm not intereste in 195s, preferring something a bit more... meaty!
Inquiring minds wanted to know, well the verdict is in........
Online tire charged me $45.33 to ship the tires, Fedex's website with the right zip codes and correct weight comes out to $28.60.
So, what should I do? Call them and say what? I know what I plan to do, but thought I'd get some other opinions.
Heck call, let us know what they say!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
I'm betting they're going to tell you that the boxes to ship them in cost $16.95. But I've been known to be wrong... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
I believe the same...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave04
Who ships tires in Boxes? Mine have always just come banded together. Banding must be expensive! :wink:
It's called shipping and handling. I doubt you get any restitution.
On my bill it's called Freight. I'll call them in the morning. I don't expect restitution, just an explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
Like POS said, mine are banded together in pairs.
And they say I tilt at windmills... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
You got some nice tires at a very good price. So what if Online Tires is making a little gravy on the shipping and "handling"?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Well, it's figured out. I actually opened their eyes. By shipping the tires in pairs with 2 tracking #'s the price goes up $37.08, which is a lot closer to the $45 they charged. Their story was they just make sure to cover all costs.
I tilt at windmills ??? Guess I'm too young for that one. ;)
Must be and old guy thing! :lol: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
Think de Cervantes Saavedra...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
Oh... That clears it up. :scratch: :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
Definition of Tilting:
v. intr.
- To slope; incline. See Synonyms at slant.
- To favor one side over another in a dispute; lean: “His views tilt unmistakably to the Arab position” (William Safire).
- To fight with lances; joust.
- To engage in a combat or struggle; fight: tilting at injustices.
Meaning of the phrase "Tilting at Windmills":
Reference to Don Quixote (written by Cervantes), the story of an old -- and slightly delusional -- knight who, remembering his glory years ventures forth to right all wrongs... even if there aren't any wrongs to right. At one point, he spots some windmills, and convinces himself they are dragons. He charges in with his lance to do battle. In other words, he Tilts (jousts) at (with) windmills (dragons).
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So in the context of this discussion, Sharpie is spending time and energy on something pretty insignificant (a few extra bucks on a shipping charge), with little or no chance of making in change in the current status (Onlinetires ain't gonna give him any money back). ;)
See?!?!? Who said the internet isn't edjamacayshanull.... :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kestrel
Don't feel bad... I had to Google that one too....Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
http://www.trimpe.org/jr/pictures/stupidchart.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by sammm
:lol:
Just answerin' the questions. Glad I could help educate you youngsters! :sunny:
Don't know Don Quixote... what are they teaching these kids in school these days anyway? :bigsmurf:
I read it, just don't remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kestrel
This thread can now die!!1
Kids these days won't understand the Impossible Dream concept either; they've been told anything is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kestrel
:bigsmurf:
:bs: How could a windmill be a dragon? I dont believe you!
Everything isnt possible? With enough credit, anything is possible!Quote:
Originally Posted by onething
Probably a nice hallucination from ergot fungus in the rye bread...Quote:
Originally Posted by Majik
I want my three minutes back!
I will now try to make this thread worthwhile.
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