Salary Negotiating Rules?

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Originally Posted by TurboDuane

Good Luck!

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+1

Looking forward to the meal you will buy all of us with your extra cash. ;)

Update, they countered my counter that was 2K higher than original but still probably not high enough. I let the recruiter I would be in for $1,500 additional or $3,500 over the first offer. I'm not sure if they do 2 rounds of counter offers or if that is normal but if it doesn't go through I'm going to stay put.

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

Update, they countered my counter that was 2K higher than original but still probably not high enough. I let the recruiter I would be in for $1,500 additional or $3,500 over the first offer. I'm not sure if they do 2 rounds of counter offers or if that is normal but if it doesn't go through I'm going to stay put.

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Good luck with your decision. Don't let $100 a month (after taxes) stand in the way of a great opportunity. If they can't/won't budge on salary and lose a potential candidate for $1,500, one of two things is happening:

1. They have another, similar candidate that is asking less money
2. They are bumping into a salary cap

If it's case 1, perhaps you could negotiate additional vacation time, a revised bonus structure (if applicable) or another "perk" that appeals to you

If it's case 2, and you are coming in at the very top of the salary range for said position, that can negatively affect the size and frequency of upcoming raises/merit increases.

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Originally Posted by miataspeedracer

Good luck with your decision. Don't let $100 a month (after taxes) stand in the way of a great opportunity. If they can't/won't budge on salary and lose a potential candidate for $1,500, one of two things is happening:

1. They have another, similar candidate that is asking less money
2. They are bumping into a salary cap

If it's case 1, perhaps you could negotiate additional vacation time, a revised bonus structure (if applicable) or another "perk" that appeals to you

If it's case 2, and you are coming in at the very top of the salary range for said position, that can negatively affect the size and frequency of upcoming raises/merit increases.

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I suspect it's not #1. I'm sure they have more people interviewing but I was told that I've been the first to interview, first to be asked back for a 2nd round and first to receive an offer. I could be wrong but I think it's more in the range of option 2. Either way if they want good people to do the position they need to look into that a bit more.

Either way I said match it or no thanks. Turns out I'll be staying here afterall!

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

I suspect it's not #1. I'm sure they have more people interviewing but I was told that I've been the first to interview, first to be asked back for a 2nd round and first to receive an offer. I could be wrong but I think it's more in the range of option 2. Either way if they want good people to do the position they need to look into that a bit more.

Either way I said match it or no thanks. Turns out I'll be staying here afterall!

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Nothing ventured nothing gained. You still have what sounds to be a pretty decent job (micromanagement not withstanding). I feel the economy will get somewhat worse for the rest of this year, and usually that's a good time to keep your head down and stay the course anyway. When the economy is jumping, that when it gets easier to negoiate for more goodies, whether it's with your current employer or a prospective one.

I guess this means you're not buying lunch? :(

SA

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Originally Posted by SixAce

Nothing ventured nothing gained. You still have what sounds to be a pretty decent job (micromanagement not withstanding). I feel the economy will get somewhat worse for the rest of this year, and usually that's a good time to keep your head down and stay the course anyway. When the economy is jumping, that when it gets easier to negoiate for more goodies, whether it's with your current employer or a prospective one.

I guess this means you're not buying lunch? :(

SA

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Well it's not just the micromanagement. I got slapped into a territory with a very bad economy (S. Florida). The housing market is in shambles there and everything else is down quite a bit. Some folks that were assigned a great territory such as Miami or Austin, TX etc are still doing great and getting good bonuses even if they sit on their ass and sell nothing.

The variable comp part of my compensation depends on overall territory revenue, a number so large that you can't affect it no matter how much you sell. If you walked into a dump your bonus paychecks are going to be pretty lean. I consistently have higher sales numbers than many people but keep getting overlooked for awards etc, this bothers me more than anything.