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One of the great things about this system is that the on-board generator can be any technology -- gas, diesel, CNG, Hydrogen, and so on. They had to go with gas in the beginning because of costs. I would expect to see a diesel version down the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by motorollow
For $30-35k I'd give it a good, serious look. Even if the electric only range is 75% of advertised in a typical Texas summer, Melissa and I could carpool together and reduce our weekday fuel consumption to basically zero. That has a lot of appeal.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
So far the range of this thing has steadily decreased from when they first said they were going to build it.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrj512
Wasn't it originally going to have a 400 mile range? What is it now??
Wonder if the Parent Company is going to offer lucrative Tax Breaks to help make it more affordable to the average Joe 6 pack.
While some of the first media reports were confused by the info and may have mis-reported it, I think Chevy's original 400 mile claim was for combined electric and gas... I.E. you would go 50 miles on electric and then another 350 on gas. As they went from theory to prototype to production testing, the numbers have gone done a little. The latest claims I have heard are 40 miles electric followed by 300 miles gas, for a total range of 340 miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
And the best thing is, you can just fill it with gas, again -- you do not have to wait hours for it to charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
ummmmmmmmm....that's what I have now. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jrj512
LOL! :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
Yep, but if you plug it in at home each night, you get zero-emission (from the car) usage for most of the trips you are likely to take in a day. Can what you have now do that? You get the best of both worlds -- electric use for most people's daily usage and an on-board generator for those longer trips that you occasionally take.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
I appreciate your opinion on your money, but they did not ask the rest of us. If you like your money to be used for this type of innovation, please donate more of your tax money on April 15. There is a spot for this and you can write it off as a tax deduction.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrj512
The Government Bailout money did NOT go for this innovation. This technology has been in the works for several years prior to GM management running it into the ground. It went for Union workers. If General Motors would have filed for bankruptcy before the bailout, the contracts with the unions would have been significantly changed. However, the money came before the bankruptcy and when the new contracts were negotiated, it had little reductions in benefits for union workers. Therefore, OUR money went to protect voters for the current administration.
Private sector would/should spend the money for this kind of innovation. The current government spending crisis is bankrupting our present and future generations. How come when you and I run out of money, we cut back on many things, but the government grows with less money to pay for these things.
Sorry for my rant, but many of us already pay and exorbitant amount of taxes every year, along with my choice to give as much to different charities and causes throughout the year.
My rant off!!!::Censor::
Wow $41,000 for a VOLT now that's a shocker!!
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/27/2...-3-year-lease/
If Jimmy would give up chicken and waffles out of state, he would probably buy one!Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Just for comparison purposes - The Toyota Prius starts at $22,800... Ford Fusion Hybrid's base price is $28,100... A Malibu LTZ lists at $29,500 with a V6.... Cadillac CTS's base price is $35,165.00... Lexus ES350's base price is $35,175.00...
$33,500 after the federal tax rebate, which isn't much more than a typical loaded Accord or Camry or other mid-size sedan.
$350/month lease for 3 years seems pretty attractive, though. That's the same that Nissan is charging for the Leaf, and since the Leaf is a true EV (no IC range extender), it has zero long trip capability. Also, the Volt can be charged from a standard 110-volt outlet (8-10 hours for full charge), wehreas the Leaf requires a special 220V charger, which is not included with the base price of the car.
Melissa and I have been seriously thinking about a Volt for her, since 99% of her daily driving is less than 40 miles total. Depending on what the real world range is (in 105 degree weather with the a/c on full), it could be a real winner for us.
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...e-tax-rebate/1
I'd rather not be the first on my street to try something new from Chevrolet....
Here are some example of why! ;-)
http://chevrolet-parts.uneedapart.co...vair-parts.jpg
http://www.automotoportal.com/media/...0818005.10.jpg
http://www.sporksforall.com/wp-conte...t_citation.jpg
Is the 41K after the government cheese?
No....Quote:
Originally Posted by gabkwong
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Originally Posted by altiain
If they would throw in a $4,500 cash-for-clunker rebate in with the deal I just might buy one!
You may be saving on gas, but electricity isn't free... If a good percentage of people actually start using hybrid/electric vehicles wouldn't the energy companies take advantage of the situation... I believe they would, it is America after all... It would over the next generation or so just be tranferring the strong hand in fueling the nation's automobiles from the oil industry to the energy companies, maybe forming monopolies... And honestly maybe 1 and of 10 Americans sincerely care about the environment, honestly.. And while I definitely believe that alternative resources such as hydrogen-power and eletric motors are the future, the transition from gasoline is not gonna be all rainbows and butterflies...
If the all-electic cars are successful, which they are bound to be, prices should drop somewhat in a few years, right now you are just paying for the breaking technology.. I would hold off for a price drop for at least two years if anything and most importantly let the manufacturers work out all the kinks that I would bet good money on the cars having...
Yep, Priuses used to be more $$ and now they are cheaper.
Personally, I think moving the emissions from millions of autos to a handful (relatively) of power plants is significantly better for the environment. Also here in TX we have pretty cheap electric compared to other places so the hurt to your electric bill won't be too terrible IMO.