Warsh drives me nuts with that shit! No possible reason why he HAD to make that move there.
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Warsh drives me nuts with that shit! No possible reason why he HAD to make that move there.
Crap...they are still up 2-1. They need to focus on tomorrow now.
Frustrating. This was a game I figured they would lose. Colby has been good but Garza is easily a number 2 in the rotation if not a 1a. I figured Colby would give up about 3 runs so when they had a chance to win the thing it just stunk.
I was at the game, Washington pulled O'Day after dramatically striking out the only batter he faced as 51,000 fans were chanting his name, and you pull him for Feliz? And why do you put in Holland in a one run playoff game? Or better yet, why is Holland on the playoff roster at all? Too many managerial mistakes cost ballgames...Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
P.S. Lewis was pulled one or two innings too early, and Wash burned the entire bullpen...
I would hardly credit Ron Washington with the Rangers recent success... Instead I would like to bring to attention that the Rangers have had the best farm system and scouts in the last five years that have blessed our team with a myriad of young talent. We have one of the best Presidents in Nolan Ryan and probably the best GM in Jon Daniels, who you can credit with many late season acquisitions, including most noticeably Cliff Lee. Without top tier pitching and hitting coaches in Mike Maddux and Clint Hurdle, especially Mike Maddux, we wouldn't be in the playoffs. And look at the talent throughout the entire organization that Washington has to work with. I believe with an above average manager the Rangers could have easily been a 100 win team this season...Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
And another bad managerial move putting in Holland...
Nothing against Holland, but he doesn't have the composure to pitch in the playoffs, especially a close game.
He's not to blame, Wash is...
Maybe we're finding out how the Rangers' "bootyholes" act under the big lights.
But hey, we already won two at the Trop. Surely Cliff can get us one more...
I think we would have had a better shot pitching Cliff in Game 4 and C.J. in Game 5
That way you make the Rays have to beat both...
What would that have done to the rotation once they made it to the league championship series? How many days off between the two series would there be and would that allow enough time for Lee and Wilson to rest and be able to start that series?Quote:
Originally Posted by CHeavin_2006
I think Warsh is a good motivator and he does do some good things, but I agree with your other post that the Rangers success might be more to do with just how much talent they have than Warsh's managerial skills. He really put them in a bind with the way he handled game 3. I thought he gave up on Lewis an inning too soon. I can't really blame him though for pulling him. That was an iffy situation. How wheels off was that ump calling game 3? That stirke zone was moving around more so than Shakira's hips. It affected both pitchers but I think Lewis a bit more because he isn't as much a power pitcher and depends on a lot of movement. But back to the crazy bull pen management. Even O'Day looked kind of shocked that Warsh was out there pulling him after one batter. He also just stretched Oliver too far. Yeah, they lost yesterday but at least Holland was able to settle down a bit and give the rest of the pen a rest.
I wasn't going to get into this, but somebody has to say it:
How much more money is made if they play 5 games instead of 3? :rolleyes:
Just sayin . . . ::Banana::
Yeah but... how much more money is made if we actually advance to the next round?
I was reading about this the other day. The players share the revenue for the first three games only. That way there is no incentive to throw games.
I'm not talking about players. Owners, vendors, broadcasting, etc. is where the real money is to be made.
Even the guys who write the scripts for professional sports get paid by the game
::StirTheP::StirTheP::StirTheP::StirTheP::StirTheP
It wouldn't have affected the rotation at all. Cliff would have pitched in Game 4 Sunday and had until the next Friday until Game 1 of the ALCS against the Yanks...Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanP1964
We all hope they win no matter what so the past is the past...
That's what I was unsure of, the starting time/day for the ALCS. I also read there was some concern about starting Lee on 3 days rest which he has never done before. Bottom line is, they are going to have to hit in this next game. Tampa is going to start Price and you have to figure he isn't having two bad home games in a row. Like you said, what's done is done. They need to go out and take care of business.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHeavin_2006
Exactly. I think if they can just shake off that whole momentum thing they'll be fine. Cliff already said that these are the situations he lives for, I'm not sure if David Price will be as comfortably in this situation. Regardless, we're gonna need to get some bats hot if we want to win!Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanP1964
I've seen this before with another Texas team vs. another Florida team in a different sports league; it didn't turn out good.
Texas to turn to new play-by-play man in 2011
ST. PETERSBURG -- The Rangers have signed television analyst Tom Grieve to a three-year contract extension and severed ties with play-by-play announcer Josh Lewin.
Grieve, a former Rangers general manager, has been in the booth since 1995, and will continue his analyst duties on Fox Sports Northwest and TXA21 through the 2013 season.
Lewin had been with the club since 2002.
"After several discussions over the last few months, the Texas Rangers and Josh Lewin have agreed to end their relationship and move ahead in different directions," team president Nolan Ryan said in a team release. "As a result, Josh will not be returning as the Rangers television announcer in 2011. We wish Josh the very best for the future."
The club will immediately begin its search for a play-by-play announcer to work with Grieve.
"I would like to thank the Rangers for nine wonderful years," said Lewin. "I respect the team's leadership and vision and wish them nothing but the best."
Eric Nadel, who has been in the organization for 32 years, is expected to remain on radio.
Onething, for about the past 5 years I've been saying the same thing but it also includes Hockey and Basketball. Just sayin'Quote:
Originally Posted by onething
Most all professional athletes are way over paid....period. They are treated like royalty. If a team stands up to one, another team will come along and give them what they want. That's not to say owners, etc. aren't lining their pockets too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
Maybe part of the new "Team" will be that they no longer bore us to death thanking every Mary Jo Horton from Anywhere USA for sending up the batch of chocolate chip cookies. I like Grieve and all but man, they can sometimes REALLY veer off from the game at hand with all the useless info.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
I'm gonna miss Josh...
I liked the dynamic that Tom & Josh had. Tom struggles a bit when they have someone like Busby subbing in. Frankly, I thought Josh was a great play-by-play guy and I could always appreciate the homespun stories and shout-outs and stuff. They never talked over the action and it made a shitty game tolerable to watch. I can't stand watching baseball on ESPN because the announcers suck so incredibly hard. The TBS guys are a tad better, but I wish we had been given the local option like we get with the first round of the NBA playoffs.
I wonder what led to his departure? One of the rumors was that Nolan wasn't thrilled about Josh's side gig with the San Diego Chargers. I'll be anxious to see who they roll in as a replacement...
I'll bet Josh is going to be a regular on nationally televised games with Fox. I like Tom G, but he's very dry and doesn't really contribute much to the game play. Like Alan said, who the freak cares who they got their last batch of deep fried jalapeno cookies from.
mmmm deep fried jalapeno cookies...
Complete game by Cliff Lee...way to go Rangers!
Bring on the Yankees.
Wow! Just wow! It's fair to say the Rangers beat the Rays every which way possible!
Claw & Antlers all the way!!!!! :D
+1! Claw and Antlers ALL THE WAY!!! :reindeer:
Cliff Lee is Picasso!!! lol
And I was so impressed with the Rangers aggressive baserunning tonight...they beat the Rays at their own game.
The folksy home spun stuff is fine, to a point. I prefer it over the talking head types like TBS has or ESPN. The ones that feel they have to sit there and just yabber on and on because they are paid to talk. Golf announcers are a prime example of not knowing when to shut the hell up and let the action speak for itself. I just felt like Josh kind of went overboard with it at times this year. Perhaps he feels like he has to in order to draw Tom G out more? Tom G definitely seems to be a bit dry at times. I still think the best example of how it should be done was Mark hotlz and Eric Nadel. Maybe I am just being nostalgic. For people who don't know my situation, I am deaf. Lost my hearing about 7 years ago and I know Nadel is still on the radio, but obviously I can no longer hear that.
Watching that game last night, my stomach was in knots from the 7th inning on. When Kinsler hit that home run, you could almost feel the sigh of relief from Rangers fan all over the Metroplex. Cliff Lee is just an amazing pitcher. I hope the Rangers can resign him next season.
+1 on the Rangers signing Cliff Lee!
I liked the Grieve-Lewin combo for the most part.
Any word on a replacement?
Maclemore? Busby? Raddigan?
I'd like to see one of the FSRangers broadcast girls get a shot.
In spite of the fact that that sounds unintentionally dirty, I'll seriously agree. Those ladies do a fine job. In addition to taking a good beer soaking on locker room duty, Emily sits in on the Ticket sometimes. I think she'd get my vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHeavin_2006
Just not that Rick Renner dude, please! :)
Grieve is the technical part of the duo, so I suppose it would need to be someone that can do the color commentary or whatever. That probably leaves McLemore out. Not to fuel rumors or speculation, and I like the guy, but didnt Busby get busted for a DUI a few years ago and that is kind of why he has never really been brought back on full time? I thought Norm Hitzges was pretty good during his stint.
Aaaaaah, Norm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPK9UwnoekU
I don't think a DUI would factor in to his chances in the booth, although I agree I don't really see Busby getting the full time gig...
The Rangers have a history of giving coke users a second chance so I don't think a little DUI wouldn't bother them much..
Lol and I totally agree on Emily! I think it's be cool to see her broadcasting.
Busby and TAG are a little too much alike. I could see one or both of them dropping off for a nap during a blowout...
Hey now, naps are good. Young whipper-snapper.::Banana::
History's biggest payroll disparity between any two playoff teams becomes official tonight when the Texas Rangers and New York Yankees begin their American League Championship Series.
A total of $151.6 million — eh, give or take a few bucks — separates the $206.7 million that the Yankees players get paid and the relatively paltry sum of $55.1 million that Rangers players take home each year.
To put it in a perspective that's even more unbelievable: Alex Rodriguez(notes) and Derek Jeter(notes) make more together — $55.6 million per year — than the entire Rangers' roster combined.