Turn 4 has always been a problem for me. I know there is tons and tons of track out there but I tend to turn in too eary, which screws up turn five big time! Easy worth a second when you do it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraiginTX
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Turn 4 has always been a problem for me. I know there is tons and tons of track out there but I tend to turn in too eary, which screws up turn five big time! Easy worth a second when you do it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraiginTX
I think Turn 4 is the hardest turn out there. I thank that's the real reason it's called "Dam Turn" they just misspelled it.::Censor::Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMerv
That little white square is a great mark for where to turn in. The only problem is, even when I had open track I wasn't accelerating up to braking zone and turning I was costing in going "now where is that little square" and you can't see it until your there.
That was definitely the hardest turn for me. Still don't know exactly how/where to brake. I know where to turn in, but have no idea how to scrub enough speed without upsetting the car there. So basically I would be hard on the throttle half-way up the hill, then give up and "coast" over the ridge and try to find a way to brake without tossing out the rear end. I'm sure I lost lots of time there...Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMerv
Well Merv thanks for the complement. I was using Flaken Azenis 205/50/15. And yes the car is very balanced.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMerv
That was my 5th session ever at Hallett (I snuck out for a 5th with Suzan) and I was just starting to feel comfortable with the track. I was still figuring out turn 4 and I know I can take turn 1 alot faster but I always puckered a bit worrying about grip. The 7 - 8 combo is a real hoot at speed just hope the brakes hold out for the Bitch.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one. I did get the hang of the 7-8 combo after a couple sessions, and after spinning in 2 early on, I think I got it down pretty well, also. For me, I see two factors that would drop my lap times significantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by miataspeedracer
First, naturally, figure out the line in 4 and 10. Second, overcome the
"pucker factor" in 1 and 4. I'm sure there was more speed to be had there - I'm just not brave enough to find it. :shock:
Next time, I think I'll run intermediate. I think my times at the end of the day were fast enough to not be a rolling chicane, and following some faster cars may help with lap times...
Craig
Ren, the chief instructor, recommended that I I put my outside tire (front left) on the right side of the square when he rode with me. When Gary rode with me, he recommended using the 2 grooves in the turn as the reference point, not the square. If I hugged the inside groove, I wasn't set up for the next transition. If I ran in between the grooves, still not the best. Driving along the outside groove netted the fastest and smoothest turn in.Quote:
Originally Posted by scmx5driver
Glad to hear I'm in sync with everyone else. Turn 2 wasn't an issue for me but I know I was breaking too early. I just had a little bit of drifting out. I actually thought it was a fun turn.
Turn 4 as everyone said is a tough one. I was doing exactly as Speedy said. Accelerating until cresting the hill, then coasting to the white square. (Maybe a tap on the brakes to get the rear end light) The turn in is obvious but difficult to see until you're on it but how do you get the car settled while keeping speed? My last few runs were the smoothest at turn 4 but I don't know how I did it. ;)
Turn 1 and turn 10 are my nemesis. I feel good transitions and set up with the car in all the other places, but 1 is like Ricochet at MSR, and I need someone else to show me that the car will hold it. As for 10 I'm just inconsistent.
I got my pics from Clyde. I will definitely order a few of them. They look great! He gets some very good angles from his bucket truck.
I would like a few more trys at the track before next year. Maybe we can get a group together in the Spring. I have no doubt I could be in the intermediate group if I hadn't shifted so much, had someone to follow and just let the car move more with momentum .....but for the first time on a track and being an old fart I was happy.:D
Interesting. Turn 1 was one of my favorites. It's a hoot when you hit it just right...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
I love Ricochet, you'd think I could get turn 1 right, but I overbrake. Next year, Next year.......:drive:
you are not the only one, I felt that if i carried the speed I could then I was going way off on the way to 2Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
Late apex, baby...Quote:
Originally Posted by Magma
I could have taken turn 1 a lot faster as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
The in-car video really helps point out your mistakes and places you could have gone faster.
If we had room, I think a TV at the track to go over your last run would be really helpful. Anyone have a 25" LCD TV lying around?:rolleyes:
No, But I think there is a 13" tube TV in the closet. ::Clown::Quote:
Originally Posted by scmx5driver
I think the TV would have to be small enough to put behind the passenger seat.
Turn 1 is a sacrificial turn. Nothing to do but take it s-l-o-w. At least that 's what Jim, the AMC member that walked the rack with us told me. :confused:
D you mean turn 2????Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
I tink that turn 1 can be had at 75ish on good tires, maybe I am wrong if so someone will tell me soon:clap: