Nice job. Which of the Miatas were you? Are you in any of the pictures posted above? Can't tell if you're the white one with blue stripes, the black one, the grey one or one of the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
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Nice job. Which of the Miatas were you? Are you in any of the pictures posted above? Can't tell if you're the white one with blue stripes, the black one, the grey one or one of the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
mine is the 94m, which i think is green, with the bright blue stripes. There were a bunch of my car in the thread above.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...-toy-run-6.jpg
Cool, I'll check out those apps. And yeah, I assumed I might have to practice a bit to move up, lol. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ken o
Nice. That photo is one of the ones I downloaded for backgrounds on my computer, lol. It switches to another photo of a Miata on the track every 15 minutes. So you're in the rotation. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
That's a nice looking car. Who did the stripe for you? Also, from that angle, it looks like your rear wheels are larger diameter than the front ones. Is that just the perspective of the camera or are they really bigger?
Michael
P.S. This is me in the red miata behind you in the foreground.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e...0/IMG_0099.JPG
I bought the car already built last summer, im not sure who painted it. the wheels are 15x9 with 225/45-15 toyo r888 all around. it's just the camera angle that makes them look bigger. You were in the brand new miata with paper tags right? Nice car.
I toasted my brake pads that last session, what pads would you guys recommend for a dedicated not street driven track car on r-comps? i am not happy with how long the hawk blues lasted, though they never faded or overheated. These only have 3 hard track days on them and are toast. i have stock 94m brakes all around with giant cooling ducts and brembo lcf 600+ brake fluid. the car does have abs if that makes a difference. I am willing to give up a bit of performance for longevity. Im also going to need new rotors, these are etched pretty badly, suggestions?
DTC-30sQuote:
Originally Posted by shanem
Do you have a smartcam or gopro? WIth gopro you need to buy Dashware at dashware.net. Export form Race Studio and import video and data into Dashware.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
Dashware looks cool. Wish there was a Mac equivalent. Makes my job a lot easier working on these videos if I don't have to bounce back and forth between windows and OSX and deal with all the different video formats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ken o
Here is a video of a Porsche Cayman using Traqmate which looks cool (kinda expensive though):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFVWYQgKogI
What brake fluid would you recommend?Quote:
Originally Posted by miataspeedracer
I run Motul in my s/c Miata and our Lemons Miata. I've never heard of anyone having any issues with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by strathound
+1 for Motel fluid.
I run Cobalt pads for track and have been really pleased. Def a track pad, noisy and dusty on the street.
I run Motul 600 and DTC 60s here with no issues. I got about 5 HPDE days on my front pads and 3 open track days. I took them off today and think they may have 2 HPDE or one open day left in them. They're my second set on the front and I will buy again from Gary at Track Dog Racing.
I think my rear pads have a few more days in them. Tat said if i swap to DTC60s, i would assume i would need to replace the rears as well?
I run PFC 01 and Motul 600 in the M3 (3,440lbs). Not sure if they make a Miata pad but the PFC pads work really well. I know most of the Miata drivers run Hawk. I think some will balance a compound with more bite in the rear to help with front wheel locking ups. I talked to a brake specialist and he also recommended doing this for cars with ABS too. It seems most ABS systems go into a panic mode under heavy braking on the track. With first stab of the brakes all calipers grab. But with continued hard braking the rear calipers can actually release and leave the front brakes to do all the stopping.
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Originally Posted by ken o
my car has abs and it locked a front wheel this weekend, which was very strange. it was an inside unloaded wheel in a corner so it would be the one to lock I guess. According to hawk the dtc 60 is a higher temp, more bite pad than the blues. i guess i would need to replace front and back to give them a shot.
I run the Cobalt XR3/XR5 combo F/R. Here is a great comparison chart at the bottom of the linked page:
http://www.cobaltfriction.com/Search...s.asp?Cat=2329
Hawk Blues are 15+ year old technology. Brake pads have come a long way since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
I've never been a big fan of Hawks, even their DTC compounds. I'd recommend Carbotechs - probably XP12 fronts and XP10 rears for a turbo Miata. Vorshlag is a dealer - give Terry a call.
As for fluid, I've run Motul RBF600 in all my track cars for the last decade. Never boiled the brakes, in anything from a stock Miata to a 320 WHP RX-7 on R compounds. Just remember that Motul needs to be changed more regularly than some other fluids - I go 6 months or every other track event, whichever comes first.
My brake set up for the track is Hawk DTC-30 in the front and Hawk HP+ in the rear. I am a Team Cheap Bastard member, so I use Ford HD Dot 3 brake fluid, about 590* dry boiling point and sh*t for wet BP, so I change often. It's inexpensive and available at any Ford Dealer. My TCB fluid has never given me a problem with my stock engined car.
DTC-60s are pretty aggressive and need heat to perform well. If you're driving your Miata to and from the track, DTC 30s might be just fine. They are a bit more "streetable" and don't give up much on the top end, heat-wise.
We ran 20+ hours straight in our Lemons Miata on DTC-30s with zero issues.
Compound is personal preference, but run one engineered this decade.
Buy $10 in temp strips so you can see if you need to pay $50/liter for Motul or run $15/liter Ate.
John and I both melt DTC-30s on 120hp Miatas. He will destroy 30s, I melted them down ultimately to brake failure in 3 sessions at MSR-C. They have a 1200*f MOT, Shane is closer to 1800-2000 firebrand temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by miataspeedracer
I like PFC-01 too.
my car isnt street legal, trailered to and from the track.
as i said before, ill give up a bit of performance for longevity. those blues lasted 3 track days at 2:04-2:02 pace, i want something that lasts longer. I thought the pfc-01 was a lower temp pad, is it not? i know carbotech has an enduro pad, the rp2, i used it on my boss and it worked well and it is made to last longer than a xp10. all the pads seem to cost the same roughly, so i don't care the brand as long as i can hoon to 2:01 standing on the brakes with no fade and they fit the factory 94m calipers front and rear. am i dreaming hoping for pads that will last 6 track days at least? that would be replacing roughly twice a year for me, i can live with that anything longer is icing.
trey if you ran those pfc-01s and ken did too, you guys run faster laps than me. what sort of duration are you getting out of them?
Our cars and brakes are all too different to compare. On my gigantic brakes and 210whp limit I went like 10-15-hours on mixed tracks per set of pads. But my brakes are gigantic so they should not be compared.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
You cannot run an XP10 on that car with those little rotors, you must run no less than an XP16. Since Carbotech uses a ceramic binder, you are infinitely more susceptible to damage from overheating because once that MOT is exceeded, the pad material literally melts off. I have a pic of an XP12 somewhere on here...Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
I don't wanna know where you get enough to fill your master cylinder...Quote:
Originally Posted by OZMDD
yeah, pfc-01 dont even show to be available for the stock 94m brakes. looks like dtc-60 or something from carbotech. hopefully ill find something priced well. now that you are NA trey, lets swap brakes :)
How am I going to do retarded shit that doesn't make sense on corner entry? I drove a stock braked Miata all weekend on XP12s and it's not bad, I just don't like them.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
just think of the money you will save in tires if you cant do stupid stuff at corner entry. I'm doing you a favor really.
Had a great time, cool event, I was having major issues with my down pipe nuts flying off so i could only get in 1/2 a session each time.
I have been running carbotechs, they were shit with my 11.75 BBK until I got ducts, now they are not too bad, but at $200 a set I am going to DTC-60's which are $60/set for my calipers.
I got 2 sets of DTC-60's and 4 rotor rings for the same price as a set of RP2 carbotechs.
Man, you must have really been going fast for your nuts to fly off in the corners. Mine were stretching but never detached thankfully. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mach1
LOL, yeah, they were really painful to put back on! Lots of burning :-/Quote:
Originally Posted by strathound
Let's see them.
Let's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq
Vorshlag posted up some pictures from the event -> http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-E...2403&k=HX735rk ::Banana::
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-E...DSC_6046-L.jpg
nice, they got pics of my ugly POS too
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-E...DSC_5780-M.jpg
So many pics are of me pointing others by. LOL!
Jerome tried to keep up but I left him in the dust...
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-E...SC_6168-X3.jpg
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-E...DSC_6002-L.jpg
putting ken a lap down (that's my story when i show this pic around anyhow)
Speaking of ken-o, did you have to change shorts after this?
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-E...SC_5944-XL.jpg