Looks more like LED him in the dust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keifersmith
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Looks more like LED him in the dust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keifersmith
lol, i figured he was following your line really, really closely.
If you look closely Ken is drinking a diet coke, pointing, and laughing at the driver as he spins.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
They say he stole the Weird sisters eye and knows exactly three seconds in advance of any car on the track loosing control, all we know is he's called KenO
I was standing at the pit-in wall for both of those. My first thought: Ken-o was appreciating the crap out of his brakes.
Pictures from the Dec 8th Toy Run at ECR: http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-E...un-ECR-120812/
Help yourselves to the pics. 140 people ran this event, a new record for Toy Run. Big shout out to Brad Flack for running the event - very well done!
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Jason McCall, Paul Magyar and I had fun testing our future ChumpCar Firebird on its first outing
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Amy drove her red 2011 GT to low 1:59s on V710s ("The tires are dead!") and I hooned my 2013 GT to 2:04.6 on street tires, with stock power (adding ASTs dropped my lap times 3 seconds)
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Tons of Miatas were there, of course. All the cool kids have one!
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-E...DSC_6168-L.jpg
This was hilarious! One Miata goes off, the rest follow?
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What is it with spinning Miatas?
(continued below... 10 pic limit?!)
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Left: KenO with a pucker moment passing a spinning Legends car. Right: I wonder if Ken got around the red car?
Well, while he did pass me in my nearly stock Mustang, he didn't pass all of the "American Iron"...Quote:
Originally Posted by OZMDD
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Andy Hollis brought his One Lap CRX to ECR for the first time and managed 2:03s on street tires (dats fast!). He spun right in front of and then got passed by Amy's daily driver. :P
Ahh, I see the confusion... Amy was running 1:59 lap times, not 159 mph. On the back straight it runs only about 120 mph on the data log. And the car was off its previous best times. In October I ran this car to a 1:56.5 best lap at a NASA TT event, and in November Amy ran the car to a 1:57.7 best. The same set-up and tires on all 3 recent events. Weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by strathound
Cheers...
Ahhh, that's where the 159 came from. My daughter rode with her and misunderstood when she said they did a 1:59. She thought that meant they were going 159 mph. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fair!
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/31682988.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Fair!
ASTS? Assists? Sorry, don't know that term.
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Originally Posted by strathound
dampers :)
http://www.vorshlag.com/index.php?cPath=122
They're magically delicious. 949 sells a custom spec'd AST for miatas. Well worth the price of admission. Pretty sure if I ever buy coilovers again for another car it will be from those dutch wizards.
i want a set to replace my koni sports and GC sleeves. Too bad i have to spend my loot on keeping the little beast cool and replacing the brakes for now. a gain of 3 seconds like terry would put me sub-2 min and I'd be a happy guy for at least a session before wanting to go faster. it's an illness.
Whoa, daddy want. $3000? Daddy needs a night job. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
I witnessed that spin up close and personal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fair!
It was very well done! :clap:
Strathound, look at 949's Xidas. They're AST's and come in different flavors starting well below $3k.
I want these with helpers and the nb top mounts.
http://949racing.com/xida-club-sport...ver-miata.aspx
everytime im over there drooling over parts at 949's site, i wonder if the fancier top mounts that are billet make such a big difference to qualify for the extra hundreds the next step up costs. the CS and the normal xidas are the same other than those tops according to the description.
My rear helpers do nothing. They only fractionally marginally uncompressed at full droop. I'm not sure I'd get them again if I had it to do over. I'm going to switch from 550/350 springs to 700/400 in the future. Maybe they will play better with the Xidas then... I'm at 4"/4"+ front/rear pinch weld heights.
The mini car spin in front of me actually happen very slow. I watch his rear letting go and waiting to see which direction he would go after the spin.
The One Lap Honda has power. I could not pull on it down the straights but made up for it in the turns and got around him. The Ferrari sucked, two laps of every station displaying a passing flag. . I was all over it in the turns and thought about a pass in the turns. But since it was the track owner or owner's wife I backed off.
My M3 has an intake, exhaust, tune, springs, and ASTs. It can run the same times of cars with much more power. You do the math.
The problem with the Ferrari is that it actually was pretty fast in a straight line. I did some research and it's 490 hp and only 2,7XX lbs. I was wondering how he was pulling away from me in the straights but then I caught up under braking and in the corners.Quote:
Originally Posted by ken o
That seems to be how it usually happens. My wife is worried that someone would lose control in front of her and she would hit them. I tried to explain that you usually see it coming a mile away and have time to back off.Quote:
Originally Posted by ken o
Always easy to discount the driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by ken o
I doubt you would gain 3 seconds from a decent aftermarket shock/spring to a better aftermarket shock spring. That 3 second gain was from stock suspension straight to an AST setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
yeah, i can dream lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
For the Miata, Koni RACE fronts and Sport rears > ASTQuote:
Originally Posted by CosmosMpowerI doubt you would gain 3 seconds from a decent aftermarket shock/spring to a better aftermarket shock spring. That 3 second gain was from stock suspension straight to an AST setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanem
How so? Not arguing, just want to hear why.
What about the upgraded Bilsteins that came with my 2012 to an AST setup? Don't worry, I'm gonna show up and drive what I brung. But I'm just thinking ahead and trying to create an upgrade list for the upcoming season. I'll start off 100% stock and then start adding stuff after a few races. I'm thinking I'll keep the tires stock until I wear them out (or they start getting really noisy). That will force me to learn how to drive the car before I start putting good rubber on there. And I'd like to experience each upgrade so that I understand the performance added.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
MS
Better shocks mean more car control. I've seen a tick under 2 minutes in a similar car and I'm not even a mid-pack driver. I dropped like 2 seconds at Hallett just driving the "DE safety line" with the good suspension.
hey, where are you going?... ok, I'm comin' too...Quote:
Originally Posted by Keifersmith
Never fixate on the guy in front of you!!
See--that old adage holds true for motorsports as well...
I've done that on a motorcycle hooning around on twisty roads. It's a painful and expensive lesson to learn. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by miataspeedracer
It was the ASTs.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Darn AutoXers trying to drive 10/10ths all the time.
Luckily, I didn't hit anyone else or damage the car.
It was a "teaching moment".
Here's the first video. Session 1 Red Group.
I posted it last night using the youboob auto stabilizing feature which made it cropped and warbled. Was too busy today to re-upload it until now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz_I-...ature=youtu.be
What do the group colors mean again? Is there a pink group?
No pink, you didn't show. Remember you don't like the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq
1. I was doing Chump, my balls dropped.Quote:
Originally Posted by ken o
2. My engine is not happy so it has to come out again. You probably won't see me again this season, hold me.
Also interested in hearing more... I actually bought my NA last year with this setup. Slowly working on tuning it (my first adjustable suspension).Quote:
Originally Posted by Davidss
Surprisingly many of the fastest miatas in the country run that setup and these are people who have the budget to buy the best no matter the cost. The valving on the Konis is exceptional. There are even numerous people that have switched back to the konis after upgrading to high dollar shocks. On the other hand the valving in the miata ASTs isn't very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by GroceryHauler
Grenade pin pulled... counting down to AST cult member rebuttal...
Well the difference isn't about "brands" (Koni vs AST) but type of shock. It isn't about fanboy rantings, it is about the technology. A twin tube adjustable damper has very distinct, non-arguable limitations compared to a monotube adjustable.
Arguing twin tubes over monotubes is an old, broken argument - search for "twin tube vs monotube" to learn about the differences. Horse and buggy vs automobile. Yes, you can set-up a twin tube shock to do well in some forms of competition, especially parking lot events, but the more spring rate you run and/or the more abuse you throw at a shock (longer stints than 60 seconds), the more a monotube really shows its distinct performance advantages. There are also ride quality advantages to the larger piston monotubes that are clear once you drive both.
Twin tubes have one main advantage - price. They are cheaper to make and therefore people buy them predominantly for that reason. And that isn't bad reason.
Terry @ Vorshlag
Who specifically are the "fastest in the country"? The last time I checked there were a select few shitting all over the rest of the nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Davidss
Finally got some time to grab a lap from Matt's GoPro Hero3 of him driving his 2013 BRZ at the Toy Run...
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/Racing-E...t-120812-M.jpg
Hardly earth shattering lap times, but the car is still fairly stock and makes all of 167 whp. Mods include our camber plates (-3° camber up front), some prototype Swift springs (production springs just arrived), some Whiteline bushings, and 17x9" wheels with 255/40/17 Hankook RS-3 tires. I drove a few laps in the BRZ at the Nov 17th ECR event to a 2:10.5 but it had a 2:09 in it (indicated, then I was blocked). Only complaint is that the cars is pretty bouncy at ECR - still don't have any coilovers yet, but we're hopefully getting some soon. This car is TOO much fun... feels like a Miata on steroids. No cowl shake or any of the "topless" issues.
This is his daily driver but we're prepping it for NASA TTD and SCCA STX.
Cheers,
best lap with video form the toy run. the data is a bit behind the video, my first time trying to use dashware. Ken tells me i also need to swap the inputs for the g-meter. (i put this in the wrong thread before lol)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtaCS3bnup4