Does anybody here use the larger oil filters as discussed on the pointy board, benefits supposedly being more filter media and a little more oil capacity as well?
Such as: Purolator L14610
Fram PH7317
Wix 51356
Champion Lab PH2867
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Does anybody here use the larger oil filters as discussed on the pointy board, benefits supposedly being more filter media and a little more oil capacity as well?
Such as: Purolator L14610
Fram PH7317
Wix 51356
Champion Lab PH2867
OEM for me.
I know Altiain did, but I don't see any benifit from a slightly larger filter.
I change the oil every 3,000 miles without fail, so not like I need more filter area to buy more time. ;)
YMMV
I use the larger Mobil 1 filter, I think it's M110
I've converted to the 110 Mobil 1 filter also... Primarily because it fits the cap wrench better so it's easier to swap out on the 8, and it's handy to only have to buy 1 filter size.
I don't think Mobil even makes those, think they are made by Champion and they get a Mobil paint job, box, and Mobil one price.::2Dollar:Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
cam76034 how much more capacity are you getting with these filters??
OEM for me.
I haven't tried it yet, but I seem to recall reading that it went up from 3.7 to an even 4 L.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
I normally use OEM, but I ran out and did not feel like going over to the dealer or paying shipping for just filters. I ended up going to autozone and getting one of the Mobile 1 filters in the standard size. It was that or FRAM, so the choice was easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
They are made by Champion, but they get a synthetic filter medium that has a better filtration rating than conventional paper mediums. The end plate and filter can are also made of a thicker material to better resist pressure spikes on startup.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
I'm a big fan of running the biggest filter element you can fit on an engine (given similar filtration ratings). The more surface area in the filter medium, the lower the pressure drop for a given flow rate, which means you're a lot less likely to trigger the pressure bypass valve under sustained high rpm operation.
Is it overkill? Probably... but paying $5 more for a better quality filter is cheap insurance, imho. I use Mobil1 filters on both of my cars.
So does it give you any noticeable increase in capacity?
you can use the 626 filter for increased filtration,... and about 3 ounces more oil.
I use the Mobil-1 M1-104 oil filter. I agree with altiain, a little more money for more peace of mind. The few ounces of extra capacity is just a small bonus.
Had you always run the larger filter in your '99, how many miles did you get out of your Miata's motor before it got the John Day treatment. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
The first motor, or the second one? The third one is is still running, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Given the 'bulletproofness' of the Miata, I figure the engineers who designed the car have a small clue on things like oil capacity, pressure and filtration. ::2Cents::
But that's not what I read on the interweb! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
Then it must be all true! ::Banana::Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
I know down deep that what you say is true, but then I hold that tiny little filter in the palm of my hand and think, bigger ought to be better.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
that's what she said...Quote:
Originally Posted by cam76034
totally off topic, but trickyrix comment reminded me of the "viva viagra" marketing campaign going on now. Coincidentally, I caught part of the Elvis special earlier this week and am convinced that he would be less than pleased with that.
...unless he was still alive and hard up for cash. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by cam76034
The first motor had a #4 bearing failure 20k miles before I bought the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
The second motor died because I was lazy and didn't check the oil level before a time trial event. It doesn't matter how clean the oil is if you starve the bearings - my own stupid mistake.
In between, the car got 70k hard miles, over 600 autocross runs, and almost two thousand track miles. It would probably still be running like a champ if I had bothered to check the oil that day. :punchout:
Powertrain engineers often have to compromise on what they think may provide the longest life in order to meet packaging constraints and cost targets. At least, that's what I hear. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
Just because it came that way from the factory, doesn't mean it is optimized for "enthusiastic" use.
Given the history, longevity and reliability of the Miata, I will continue to use OEM. You don't have to if you don't want to. :cat:Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
That was a good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
Thats all well and good, until Maxda changed filter vendors. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by sammm
I use Purolator "PureONE" PL14610 (available at Pepboyz)
About a capfull more oil and quite a bit more filter area. ;)
Royal Purple 10w30 changed every 5k.