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I am looking at new tires for my 15x8 Rota RBs. I have narrowed it down to 215-45-15 Toyo T1Rs or 225-45-15 Hankook RS2s. This will be mostly for street use, as I can through on my junk 14s with Azenis if I do a track or autocross event. Wear is not an issue as the car is only driven about 6k miles a year at this point. I am looking for something grippy and fun for the street that isn't too noisy or stiff. Thoughts?
go for the RS-2
I haven't driven the T1R's, but by looking at the sizes, I'd go with the RS2's. I like to have more rubber on the road.
I've had T1-R's for my daily use tires about 3 yrs; they're almost down to the wear bars. Very easy to live with and surprisingly grippy. Great in the rain too. Probably not in the same league as an autocross "street tire" but those are generally not renowned as comfy daily driver tires either. I would not hesitate to buy another set.
I'm just a single data point but I see my new Direzzas w/full tread are 5.5 lbs heavier than my worn T1-R's in exactly the same wheel and tire size (195/55 on OE 15x6). I do not recall how that compares to the published weights.
second recomendationfor the toyo T1-R. Really happy with the way they perform on the street. Heck even my wife noticed the difference over the old tires we had.
Too add to the discussion, the T1rs are 17.6 lbs and the RS2s are 20 lbs. Being that the wheels are a little on the heavy side at 15.5 lbs, I'm thinking it might do me some good to loose some tire weight?
My butt can feel a 2 lb difference in unsprung weight. Never tested anything smaller.
But what are the odds of that actually happening? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Titus
How's the sidewall on the RS2? The Toyo squish is nice on a daily compared to something stiff like Azenis. I loved the T1S in the wet.
Heck, I'd pick the Toyo just for the weight difference if I drove more than 2K mi/yr.
Throwing them on, or getting back in to attending track and autocross events? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by redmenace
Why not run Azenis full time? Great in dry weather and not bad in rainy conditions.
http://www.edgeracing.com/tire/8031/
I bought these to use as street tires on my new wheels and I have been very happy with the ride and the grip. I haven't had them long enough to wear the nubs off so I couldn't say about treadlife. BTW the tires balance with very little weight. 0,.5,1.5 and 1.5 ounces for the set. I lost nearly 5 pounds per wheel and tire combo over the stock wheels with Azzenis and you can really feel the difference.
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Originally Posted by Darron65
T1R's
Don't get me wrong... I love Azenis and have used up a few sets of them, but....Quote:
Originally Posted by bnordin
1) I already have nearly new Azenis on my 14" wheels, and I don't feel like being redundant. :D
2) I'd like something a little quieter and with a slightly softer sidewall.
3) There is nothing in a size that is optimal for a 15x8 wheel.
Size is an issue. In fact, no one makes anything for the street in an optimal size for 15x8s on a Miata other than the T1R and the RS2.Quote:
Originally Posted by creek
My vote is for the Rs-2's. great straight line grip, no noise when the rear end was hanging out around corners, good wet weather performance(Shi^%y ice performance)
I have nothing but good things to say about my T1R's. I chose them because of their weight to offset my weight increase in larger rim upgrade. They did take almost 500 miles to break in though and they take a lap or two on the track to heat up. Haven't autocrossed with them.
RS-2's if you plan on very rarely driving your car having an awesome amount of grip.
T1R's if you don't drive your car even 5/10's.
Diesel boy say what?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwag
Daily street tire? T1-R, baby!!
8,000 miles a month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
I love my T1R's, but then again my car is DD and I put about 1,000 miles/month on it. They're lots of fun on the street, and they're great in the rain. Like Nails said, they took a few hundred miles to break in, but I was very happy with them at Hallett.
My RS2s have been around for a while and through 3 sets of wheels. I say stick with the RS2s. You can't go wrong with them.
This may be out of the question, but I switched from Azenis ST-615's to the Nitto NT-01 and never looked back. This was on a daily driven car with coilovers. The Nitto's ride is much quieter and smoother that the Azenis and they are very predictable. I normally sell a 225/45/15 for $136.00 and a 205/50/15 for $127.00. They are more expensive than the RS-II at $99.00 for a 225/45/15 and the Azenis at $84.00, but it is a very different tire.
My vote is for Rs2's....
mine are nice on the street and wow, the grip at Hallett was awesome!!!!
no problems yet
FYI my T1R's were very slick at 45 degrees on the track. Sessions were damn near over before they started to feel like they were beginning to grip and they never felt sure-footed until the latter half of the third session when the track finally started to warm today. Be careful with these summer tires in colder weather. Lotsa folks slid today.
Either choice is great. The Toyos will probably last longer and they do ride a bit smoother/quieter for daily driving. I have a set of both tires right now and the RS2's do grip better dry but the Toyos have better wet traction especially when the tread starts to get worn down.
Bringing this thread back from the dead... I finally made a decision (and found enough cash) and got some new tires. Now to find time to get them mounted.
http://forums.dfwmiata.com/attachmen...1&d=1240347336
http://forums.dfwmiata.com/attachmen...1&d=1240347336
Get them mounted and come out to TMS on Saturday. :burnrubr:Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Nah.. if I came out, it would be on the 14's that have good Azenis on them. But alias, I will be spending Saturday with the UV coolant die/light kit I just got in the mail and an Autozone loaner coolant system pressure tester trying to figure out my cooling issues. ::Rant::Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
If it makes a continuous dripping sound I now know what causes that! ::Clown::Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Can't wait see them. Those are some meat. I was just thinking of going 205/50/15's. Where did you order them?
Nope... it is sucking the overflow dry about once every 2 months (although I only drive it twice a week), and the LINK shows it is running hot to the point of cutting fuel if I get in to boost too much but it isn't hot enough to move the oem gauge past normal. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Searched all the usual places and when you looked at cost with shipping, Goodwin had the best price. It is the first time I have seen Goodwin beat out onlinetires.com.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie