The dyno and stuff on the car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQst99sHUsc
The car in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFFudEJnjk&NR=1
Printable View
The dyno and stuff on the car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQst99sHUsc
The car in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFFudEJnjk&NR=1
Very impressive.
That's one sick Stook
Sure doesn't seem like 700 whp if it can barely pull a R6. Also I'm not sure how many miles that stock diff is going to last if it makes that much power.
In the dyno graph they briefly showed in the first vid, the 700+ is a momentary blip. The rest of the graph is in the 690 range. Not knocking that. It is still an accomplishment. I just think that saying you have a 700 HP car is a little misleading given the graph he shows.
450lb/ft, on a dynojet...lol. I bet its a real joy to drive on a track.
On dallas imports we had a guy making 413fwhp in a EG civic hatch on a stock internal integra GSR motor. Here is his car on 330whp i think.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/R...-VS_638166.htm
Tony is an amazing tuner
what makes him so amazing?
He is prolly the best Dallas has to offer in my "opinion"
care to share the "facts" which shaped your opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by moosemonkey
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Originally Posted by moosemonkey
I have had a ton of friends go there for Tunes and Fab work. All the things that come from T1 are top notch and not to mention they are safe tunes. They don't blow up a month down the road. We have a guy on this board who has a silver miata i think he was tuned by Tony. I met him at the meet at 635 and coit. I wasnt trying to start an argument with yall i was just showing yall some of the number and stuff he has done. Also he has the fastest street street integra in the world. We have some guys that go to the drift event in Mineral Wells aswell that go to him. Like i said i was just showing yall some stuff i thought was neat and very impressive 690-700whp on a stock 2.2liter engine and 413whp on a stock internal B18.
Meh, I'd much rather use an eddy-control dyno. FYI, he doesn't like MS and he'll tell you all about it.
when i get my Miata i want to make 200 and i think that will be perfect... Is there any videos out there of a 500+ whp miata cause i would like to see that! that would be crazy cool! Just about the convo about Tony... Mr Brg why dont you show us some stuff that you fav. North Texas tuner has done... just to show how great he is! Not arguing but it just seams like you are tying to start something with out showing something...
Should easily get 500hp with an LS2 conversion.
yeah but that isn't a 4 cyl. that is taking chevy power... im talking about with the 1.6 or the 1.8 but im not nocking an LS thats for sure!
I am my favorite DFW tuner. Ask anyone who's driven my car, they may agree with you. I'm also not open for business and a total amateur, but I can't seem to find any other miata tuners or companies making 252wtq on a dynodynamics box with a gt2860rs at 15psi. I was very frustrated by difficulty finding someone to tune the car, so I read two books and did the tuning myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrpepperTECH!
I dont' care to give away money to "tuners" who won't discuss their method or metrics they tune by, and unfounded opinions and statements of excellence. I also believe in a free market and a company's right to refuse business to anyone. I have no doubt that I'm grossly inferior to most people who've done any real tuning, but if they want to play hardball with me they won't get my money.
I refuse to give someone my $$$ in motor and turbo for a product they chock up to a trade-secret, unless they want to enter into an agreement on the longevity of the mechanical bits.
Stock Engine? Really?
What are his oil temps and coolant temps?
Nice bragging rights, but what does it run at a drag strip or the track? I'm all about the specs and I want to see the results, too.
Well that is kinda the point of a "Tuner".... why would someone tell you their secrets? Its like going to place that has some good food but they have a great secret traditional recipes. you pay but you don't get the secrets... Just like a tuner, why would they tell you? they tell you, you do it on your friends car and there goes their money. I'm sure that they will be willing if you pay extra. But there is a reason people don't like customers to look over their shoulders while they are working.
I want to know if he tuned my motor for something reasonable, or if he put it at MBT so I will post crazy #'s on the internet and drum up business for him. Remember all the internet-drama about that "Shiv" guy who was getting turbo cars to spool insanely fast by inducing detonation? What about CTC tuning who liked to put fuel at 14.0:1 to build mid-rpm horsepower?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrpepperTECH!
That's exactly why I want to know how my motor/money was tuned, so I don't have to pay someone $400-$1000 so I can go home and fix what they thought was a good idea.
"Thanks for the g-bar. I can't tell you how I tuned or if there's going to be detonation on the road, but if it blows up because of it, don't call me until you're ready for me to tune it again because its a trade secret."
that I can understand. I would want to know if I was able to put down 700hp but if i drove on 500 would it blow up in a day? yeah I would want some kind of reassurance before i dropped some big nickle with a tuner. I guess you would just have to see some kind of portfolio. much like a photographer or a designer before paying up. But if you want some info from this guy I'm sure we can come up with some for you.
In my portfolio of choice it will have a list of customers, and the # of track-hours it lasted. Hopefully well-over 100-hours so I can keep the motor more than 2-years.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrpepperTECH!
Actually he told me over the phone that he was not interested in letting me tune the car on his dyno unless it was one of the computers he sells, its his dyno and he can do what he wants. I have a good deal set up with Powercurve in Austin, and its a great dyno too. He lets me show up, give him money, tune the car while he works the dyno, and leave happy.
I don't have to worry about someone's questionable "good idea" to get some crazy output # when I tune it...anyone who's driven it will tell you drivability is solid and it makes more than enough power. I want to do some <4000rpm work with load control again though to clean up some stuff I avoided because I was tired and cranky.
http://forums.dfwmiata.com/showpost....9&postcount=94Quote:
Originally Posted by DrpepperTECH!
Tuning is not a super secret science. Although, it is an expensive learning curve if you mess up. I find it hard to believe that a tuner would face stiff competition from a guy that watched a tuner put his car on the dyno and explained what he is doing. Tuning cars on a dyno is probably only a relativley small part of their entire business (unless they only specialize in dyno tuning).Quote:
Originally Posted by DrpepperTECH!
Some customers want a turn key hot rod. Others want to be able to tweek it or even fix it themselves (god forbid). Many of these cars change parts like a normal person changes socks.
Chris
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Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92
It may not be super secret but people do different things.... That is why one person thinks that one guy is better then the other. But do to the fact that people do different things kinda makes it their own. different strategies, technologies, perspective, know how... Ect. because if every tuner was the same then NASCAR and other types of Specific racing would suck (I'm not a big fan of NASCAR but not the point).
Genuine question:Quote:
Originally Posted by DrpepperTECH!
Can you please tell me what I don't understand or what I've overlooked because I tune for MBT without detonation.
Ideas like super-retard spark to shoot fire through the turbine to supposedly make it spool faster, and detonation at low rpm are not things I'm interested in though.
Tell you the truth... people make good money to know these things.... I don't know much about tuning as far as making cam and other adjustments. tuning a ECM or a PCM depending on car and make. I have read on forums ways that others have tuned for MBT... but i have been into Honda for so long... as much as i love them they are not known for Torque. Why don't you take it to Tony and see what he says. Anything is worth a try.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brg
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Originally Posted by mr brg
Am I reading this wrong? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DrpepperTECH!
Its the new hotness to put in a little detonation at low rpm because "it makes power." I think its a great idea if longevity is not a goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
I know nothing specific about T1R aside from a respectable refusal to tune MS because its inferior to MoTec (and $4k cheaper). I don't care to "try" with $600-1000.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrpepperTECH!
Tuning is not a black art; the goal is an output with safe-conditions and drivability.