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It's time to buy new tires. I drive my car mainly to work and back and occasionally on the track. I am planning on buying size 205/50/15 and putting them on Rota Slipstreams size 15x7. The price difference on tirerack.com is $60 per set of 4. Are the Star Specs worth the extra money?
The Kumhos are what Gary has on his new NC in 245 size on 9" 6ULRs. I understand they are the superior tire in dry traction but lack in the rain; I don't know this firsthand. I too am planning on getting some extreme performance tires too but waiting for mfr. rebates.
I got a 50 dollar rebate from Dunlop when I bought my Star Specs from Tirerack.. They have those promotions ever so often.
I've got a set of each.
XS feel a bit more crisp once off centerline, but when tracking straight ahead, there's a lack of feed back until the tires take a set and they really go to work. In the wet, when the grip goes away, it's very abrupt and the car is hard to catch unless you're on your A game.
*Specs - definitely better in the wet and the dry grip is very close to the XS. I don't run the *Spec regularly on the street, but their behavior on track inspires confidence and they provide a civilized ride. Very pliable and they just grip grip grip.
If I were in the position of picking up one set of tires for DD duty + track time, I'd go with the *Spec. As an all around extreme performance tire, I think they're a bit better and the wet weather performance is what puts it over the top. The 1 or 2% better dry traction the XS's get shouldn't be something that's detectable on the street or on track until you're chasing tenths and are really consistent.
HTH,
Chris
I would suggest the Dunlops. They seem to be a better all-around tire for street usage. I plan to buy a set for my street tires. I enjoyed the ones on which I AX'd, too.
Dunlop Star Specs. They just work better. I tired AD08, XS, ans SS. They are the next best thing to an r-comp tire.
This is a data overlay from MSR 1.7 Hoosier R6 vs Star Spec. Watch at full screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrjkgKQMWA
Another vote for the Dunlops. I use Star Specs on my STX car. FWIW, the Dunlops are competitive in several SCCA Street Touring classes, but almost no one runs the Kumhos anymore. The Star Specs just work well and last a long time.
Hankook RS3 would also be another brand to cross shop.
The RS3's have a very low size selection.
IMHO, Star Specs are the best dual-purpose tire, due to their excellent wet-weather handling and reasonable comfort level. I plan to run them on my street wheels when the RE01R's finally wear out. The only things the XS's seem to have going for them are dry grip and very good heat tolerance.
Thank you for this thread! I've been shopping these same tires...
Had a blowout and a puncture near the sidewall both within a couple of weeks. The rubber is getting old so....time for a new set. Decided on Star Specs. Anybody got suggestions on the best place to purchase? NTB suggested I buy from Tire Rack and have them delivered to one of their shops.
Anybody got a better idea?
Have you checked your oil? ;)
More times these past few months than my entire life.Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
Now, do you have some input on tires? ::Ton5::
I would contact Todd Eady at
Discount Tire
8700 Ohio Drive
Plano, TX 75024
(972) 377-8242
Let us know how Todd compares to Tire Rack on the Star Specs...I'm in the market for some tires too.Quote:
Originally Posted by cone-cerned
I got 4 235/40/17 Star Specs from Rudy at Tire Rack for six hundred even plus shipping. Ordered Monday morning they arrived Tuesday afternoon. I took them to Hallett and they were very very good. Had clutch start to slip before they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geckotek
PS. They did alright in the grass too!
Nails, you better explain to everyone that was not at Hallett last weekend about your new Avatar! :-)
I won a toy John Deere tractor as a "mowing the grass" door prize in a random drawing of 4-6 people who were called up for having the most "offs".
That's how I drive; flat off.
+1 for Star Specs, they had excellent grip at the track.
Remind me, you're not running stock wheels correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nails
I'm currently running 215/45/17s on the stock wheels. Pretty sure 215 is about as wide as I can go.
The 215/45/17s are $575 with shipping on the site. Can Rudy get us a bit better pricing?
Edit: perhaps if you stayed on the track you coulda kept up w/ Gary...lol. Wish I coulda made it, but it was too much to try right after getting back from Seattle.
9 inch rims. No special deals. I have 215's on my 8 inch rims.
FYI, called Discount and they are matching the TireRack pricing. Basically what they've done for me in the past.
We normally sell the 215/45/17 StarSpecs for $530 shipped for DFW Miata guys. Let me know if you still need them.
What's your price for a set of 195/50/15's and 205/50/15's?Quote:
Originally Posted by PTPForrest
Got them yesterday. Paid $528 + $10 shipping per tire. Of course had to pay for mounting/balancing, disposal for one tire (kept 3 of the old ones....the one I left had been patched), and tax. Caught off guard by the final price becuase for some reason I just didnt' add it all up in my head right. Oh well...got some very nice new tires. We'll be going to Eagle's Canyon soon.
195/50/15: $445Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
205/50/15: $438
Dismount, mount, balance, disposal is $15 each for DFW Miata members
Got the Discount Tire email this morning:
"Between October 2nd and December 4th, 2010, receive up to an $80 Mail-in Rebate when you purchase a set of four select Goodyear or Dunlop tires."
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...DGdyDun80Promo
It's only $20 for Star Specs.Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasStig
Same size, different profile.
When I first saw the tires, I thought I had the wrong size, had to double check. Before I had the Falken Azenis (RT-615 I think). These Dunlops have a noticibly higher profile. I don't even scrape the speed bumps in the parking garage as easily. But despite the slightly higher profile, they seem to be very stiff. Response in turning is very tight.
Next up....alignment.