Automatic locks and window regulator

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01-31-2012, 07:34 PM
MiataProtege

Automatic locks and window regulator

I got off school today and decided to give it a go and fix the automatic locks and window regulator. The locks were not opening all the way upon engine turn off on the passenger side, so I pulled the door panel off and tightened these screws:
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...e/Photo701.jpg

Shortly after, the passenger automatic lock stopped working entirely, as before it would lock on engine start, and only half open on turn off.

Here's what I'm looking at, it looks as if a piece has broken on the actual plastic (red and black) of the lock. This part:
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...e/Photo705.jpg

Additionally it could be the yellow plastic bit on a spring:
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...e/Photo703.jpg

The problem with the window regulator... it originally would only go down an inch, I found a method of fixing it, by attaching the cord to a ziptie and it worked perfectly. However.... I fiddled with it... and cannot for the life of me get this cord:
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...e/Photo706.jpg

Back into place. I accidentally hit the window switch and rolled the window up with that cord not fastened into it's hole, thus the wire pulled inward an inch and now will not give back that inch to be able to fit into it's crevice.

Fixing for both things??

Locks: Could I just buy new plastic bits for a couple dollars some where, or is the whole mechanism broken?

Regulator: Can that wire be lengthened some how, or am I forced to buy a $200-300 regulator and go crazy installing it myself? (I hear they are a pain)

Any thoughts are helpful! Thanks in advance. http://forum.miata.net/vb/images/smilies/638.gif
02-01-2012, 12:30 PM
MiataProtege

In WAY over my head. Disassembled everything and two things come to mind... paranoia of not being able to put it back in place.... and... can I even fix the problem?

I don't know if i need to some how retract the cable...and if so in which direction.

So yeah, based off these pictures.... is it broken beyond repair? Those cables seem too far out, can they be pulled back in?

And.... I definitely should NOT being doing this. Lol.

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...e/Photo712.jpg http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...e/Photo713.jpg
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...e/Photo714.jpg
02-01-2012, 12:53 PM
sammm

If you didn't take both sides apart, look at the one still intact.
02-01-2012, 01:00 PM
MiataProtege

Upon further inspection I have only managed to find 4 possibly broken things.

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/.../Photo7161.jpg

This looks like it should also have another piece to allow it to clip to the top of the regulator assembly, but it doesnt look important.

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/.../Photo7171.jpg

These 2 wires look pretty damaged at the ends, but I would assume I could still spool it as is.

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/.../Photo7191.jpg
And then this is the spool itself, also semi damaged.
02-01-2012, 01:00 PM
OZMDD

Stop feeding the troll, Sammm! :punchout:

Poetic justice at its finest.
02-01-2012, 01:07 PM
Treibenschnell

Quote:

Originally Posted by OZMDD

Stop feeding the troll, Sammm! :punchout:

We have a troll? Where the hell have I been...
02-01-2012, 01:10 PM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treibenschnell

We have a troll? Where the hell have I been...

Oh no now we have 2! ;)
02-01-2012, 01:15 PM
sammm

Just trying to help the lad.....I'm a giver!
02-01-2012, 01:18 PM
POS Racing

BTW there is a guy on Miata.net with the same exact problem MiataProtege you may want to monitor that post also - http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=448098
02-01-2012, 01:22 PM
MiataProtege

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

BTW there is a guy on Miata.net with the same exact problem MiataProtege you may want to monitor that post also - http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=448098

Asking both forums usually provides more responses, since normally one of them I'm getting trolled in. Lol.

After trying a few times to spool this.... it simply will not fit back into it's spot... due to the bent wiring. I'm about ready to concede.
02-01-2012, 01:24 PM
Treibenschnell

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Oh no now we have 2! ;)

Hiya baby! How ya been? I've missed seeing your little legs run around (you've always known how sexy I found them!)
02-01-2012, 01:26 PM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treibenschnell

Hiya baby! How ya been? I've missed seeing your little legs run around (you've always known how sexy I found them!)

NM whats up with you El Beano?? Are you still going to school? How's the wife and Kids?
02-01-2012, 04:13 PM
MiataProtege

Update:

Effectively zip tied the lose wire on the top due to the damaged clip, it held it place perfectly, then zip tied the regulator itself to stop the wires from spooling out... it worked one miraculous beautiful time.... and then broke again. Will only go down two-thirds, and will only go back up 90 percent, then you have to force it the rest of the way.

It is definitely due to the spool / wires. New regulator needed in the future. Giving up for now.

The automatic lock... the black piece of plastic you pull with your finger to unlock the car is broken, I will need a replacement piece for that aswell.

So lots of work and paranoia ending in 0 accomplishment. I suppose atleast now I dont have to prop my window up!
02-01-2012, 05:23 PM
Treibenschnell

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

NM whats up with you El Beano?? Are you still going to school? How's the wife and Kids?

Not much at all! I gradumatated in '09. Still waiting on UNT to get its act together to finish the JD portion. Gwen is fantastic. She's been cancer free for almost 2 years now and feeling a whole lot better. The kiddos are growing like weeds. My boy will be 4 in August and my daughter just turned 2. How's the family doing with you?
02-01-2012, 06:44 PM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treibenschnell

Not much at all! I gradumatated in '09. Still waiting on UNT to get its act together to finish the JD portion. Gwen is fantastic. She's been cancer free for almost 2 years now and feeling a whole lot better. The kiddos are growing like weeds. My boy will be 4 in August and my daughter just turned 2. How's the family doing with you?

Everyone is doing great Wife still working for the county and quilting up a storm. KK is now 16 and a Sophomore in High School!!

Time flies!

So glad to here everything is going well for you guys!
02-01-2012, 07:35 PM
Sharpie

Great thread drift.

Bean, mine are 7 and 3 now. Let me know if you wanna hang out sometime.

I bought a motor and actuator for my 00' MPV from an ebay vender for just of $50. Haven't priced them for the miata.
02-01-2012, 08:49 PM
OZMDD

Treibenschnell - your daughter is a couple months older than my son. We'll have to get them a kart to share!

Doesn't UTD have a Law School opening up?

@POS - you've got mail!
02-01-2012, 09:24 PM
Treibenschnell

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Everyone is doing great Wife still working for the county and quilting up a storm. KK is now 16 and a Sophomore in High School!!

Time flies!

So glad to here everything is going well for you guys!

No kidding!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpie

Great thread drift.

Bean, mine are 7 and 3 now. Let me know if you wanna hang out sometime.

Hehe. Are you still over in Denton? BTW, you're old man is a helluva guy. I just wish the deal had gone through! But I gotta say, he was spot on with his diagnosis.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OZMDD

Treibenschnell - your daughter is a couple months older than my son. We'll have to get them a kart to share!

Doesn't UTD have a Law School opening up?

Haven't heard on the UTD story. UNT is supposed to get its act together for 2013. Supposed to.

Odd that you mention carts, you're the second person to say that to me about my kids! LOL
02-01-2012, 09:54 PM
Titus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpie

Great thread drift.

Bean, mine are 7 and 3 now. Let me know if you wanna hang out sometime.

I bought a motor and actuator for my 00' MPV from an ebay vender for just of $50. Haven't priced them for the miata.

$50? The old engine let go?
02-01-2012, 11:39 PM
Sharpie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titus

$50? The old engine let go?

Ha ha Todd you be funny. The plastic crap inside the power window motor let go.
02-02-2012, 01:19 AM
trickyrix

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiataProtege

Asking both forums usually provides more responses, since normally one of them I'm getting trolled in. Lol.

Sorry, pal! I'll try and do a better job at trolling you on Miata.net - I usually go there to practice trolling and vent my drunken rages anyhow. See ya 'round!

[/troll]

And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread drift...
02-02-2012, 12:04 PM
Treibenschnell

So I'm thinking that a may be the solution...
02-02-2012, 01:29 PM
Jiggerachi

That cable is done for, and good luck find the plastic pieces sold separately. I had the same problem on my honda, I looked at the tangled broken cable system thinking I could fix it for about 30 seconds, then I bought a new regulator assembly. Save yourself the hassle and buy a new assembly. Don't worry about the lock, softtops are too easy/quiet to slash anyway.

In my experience with the honda it was super easy to replace the whole assembly. Easier than what you've done so far, that's for sure. And in a 10 second google search I found NB Miata regulators are expensive, but not 200-300, most have been in the 100-200 range. Honda's are less than $50, motor included.

Sorry for contributing, back to the thread drift...;)

My kids are the same age as yall's, well my oldest anyway...almost 2. Daugher is only 2months. I'm definitley down for a future karting league.
02-02-2012, 07:44 PM
MiataProtege

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

That cable is done for, and good luck find the plastic pieces sold separately. I had the same problem on my honda, I looked at the tangled broken cable system thinking I could fix it for about 30 seconds, then I bought a new regulator assembly. Save yourself the hassle and buy a new assembly. Don't worry about the lock, softtops are too easy/quiet to slash anyway.

In my experience with the honda it was super easy to replace the whole assembly. Easier than what you've done so far, that's for sure. And in a 10 second google search I found NB Miata regulators are expensive, but not 200-300, most have been in the 100-200 range. Honda's are less than $50, motor included.

Sorry for contributing, back to the thread drift...;)

My kids are the same age as yall's, well my oldest anyway...almost 2. Daugher is only 2months. I'm definitley down for a future karting league.

Thanks bud :) Already purchased the regulator off ebay... nice and cheap! Also... the main reason I want the lock.... the doors automatically unlock when you turn off the car... it's embarrassing having to go around and manually unlock the car for girls lol. The entire door handle assembly (for a pair) was $20. I am amazed at prices on Ebay sometimes. Thats with free shipping.