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The big X-box racing sim is supposed to be released this thursday. Forza motorsport is supposed to be like GT4 I believe. Someone with an X-box should get this and report back... I don't have X-Box yet, but if this game is good, I'd get an X-Box, Halo 2, and Forza.....
Expect my full review next weekend... I've been playing Pro Race Driver 2 for the last half a year or so to get my competitive gaming racing fix... The X-Box has some fantastic racing games (not driving, per se - GT4 does pretty well for that), and I fully expect Forza to be a fantastic addition.
Pro Race Driver 2 is about $14 at Gamestop when you get your Xbox, BTW... and it comes with Collin McRae Rally.
Yes, I meant driving sim... U have 10 times more posts than me!Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
I didn't mean to argue with racing/driving... I was just pointing out that I think the best racing (as opposed to driving) sims are on the Xbox, and I think Forza will be another great one - in fact, it may well turn out to be a great driving sim to boot!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigDstars
ive played the demo version at work, feels pretty good, dynamics wise. graphics are very good.
you can also rice out your car like on underground
Woo-frickin-hoo!
Just a couple quick comments to start off the morning (and sell a bunch of Xboxes...)
Driving game: A game that simulates the experience of driving a car. Other cars may be present on the track, but they tend to drive around in a neat, organized procession without paying much attention to where you are
Racing game: A game that simulates the experience of driving a car while 7 of your worst enemies try to occupy the space directly in front of you by taking advantage of any little mistake you may commit
About 50 million years ago, I played this nifty game from Microprose called F1GP World Circuit. I had played Stunts and Test Drive and they were cool - back in the day of CGA and EGA on the PC. They were cool driving games. F1GP was a racing game - well... simulation, actually, but that's another story. And it was instructional! In the early levels of difficulty it included a "best line" driving aid that painted a stripe on the pavement. It even had a mode where the computer did your braking for you - which was a darned good thing, since missing a braking point sent you hurtling off through the grass, sand pits and into a flurry of F1 parts as you hit the tire barrier.
Now, we have a racing game on a console. There have been others - Pro Race Driver 2 and Moto GP 1/2 for the Xbox come to mind, but none with real potential for mass appeal. The car customization features, the wide array of licensed cars and damage! modeling give Forza the potential to truly raise the bar in console "car" games.
Did I mention it's online? Since I like to sleep (and keep my job), I resisted the urge, but I have a bunch of e-mails from my Moto GP buddies replete with OMFG's, WTF are you and WTF aren't you online playing this game with us?
Physics are much more impressive than the exaggerated body roll and bump steer in GT4. Sound is fantastic - especially in Dolby 5.1 surround - and surround sound is a huge benefit as you can hear the competition coming up on you as you brake for turns. Or, you can hear them drive up your tailpipe when you brake 50 yards to soon for an upcoming turn.
Don't let me give the impression that the AI is stupid... They'll hit you when you're stupid. And with realistic collision physics at play, a hard nudge under braking from a suprised AI driver can easily send you off into the weeds. Learning the racing line on the tracks is crucial. Which gets me back to where I started... You can turn on the display of the racing line while you're learning.
You'll hear more from me on this game. It'll probably be like my damn tires that I can't shut up about.
<smack talk on>
I look forward to kicking your butts soon.
<smack talk off>
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:roll: :rolleyes: Oohh... I'm :shaking:...Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
By the way, did we lose some smilies? I can't seem to find my little horned aggressor dude...
:twisted:
That one?
Or this one?
:viking:
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Originally Posted by tailchaser
Hehehe....
This game continues to impress me. The physics model is much more sophisticated than the GT model. I understand it runs at 250Hz instead of 60, but I think it is also modelling a lot more data than GT.
If you have an Xbox - especially if you have Live! - you must try this game. My DF Pro wheel may be on the market soon as the only interest I have in GT right now is the tracks that aren't in Forza.
If you're thinking about an Xbox, you're welcome to come over and take it for a spin.
Let me know when you break that one! :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
This game is on sale for 35 at Fry's.
Well... I finally did it... I ran some online races last night. Bwuhahaha!!!
I started out by jumping in to a room with a friend from other Xbox racing games. I quickly discovered that both of my Class A cars were outclassed, although my stock Ferrari 360 CS was hanging on pretty well. So, I took a quick break, drove over to the parts store, and picked up coil overs, brakes, and had Mario install an upgraded fuel/ignition box. That stuck me barely within the limits of Class A. Now it was time to kick some butt.
I rejoined the room just as the host moved us on to the oval track. Just my luck. Really! Apparently in online play, the system still runs a simulated qualifying lap and puts the fastest cars at the back. And there I was. The lights turned green, and I took off boiling smoke out of the rear fenders as the mighty Ferrari tore through first gear. Ten seconds later I was halfway through third gear and slotted in to draft the two lead cars, passing them into the entry to the first oval. I picked up a hitchhiker in the form of a silver Lingenfelter 'vette, and we bump-drafted down the back straight reaching 220 mph and leaving the rest of the field scratching their heads. Three laps later I took the checkered flag and picked up a cool $50,000 (less a few dollars for engine repair after redlining a bit during bump-drafting).
We repeated the oval track race with similar results before moving on to Road Atlanta. In the first race, I misjudged how much acceleration the Stradale could muster and got very loose in turn 1, leaving me tucked between two inexperienced drivers heading up the hill to the chicane at turn 2 where I took a trip through the kitty litter. After dragging back on track, I worked my way through traffic, watching in despair as the lead cars ran off ahead. On the last lap, I caught up with 2nd place as we ran through the tight double-apex turn onto the back straight. I managed a pass under braking at the end of the straight, but his highly modified Subaru STI was able to put down the power and out-accelerate me up the hill. I pulled along side in the last sweeper and it was a photo finish, but he had me by .007.
Have I mentioned this **** is addicting? Hooah!
I take it the XBOX online performance was much better than our PS2 experiments?Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
Much. No lag. Very slight stuttering when you've got 4 cars right in front of you at speed, but only at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
OK, OK... darn you Tailchaser, now I have to go out and buy another game console. :geek: It just sounds too good to resist!
So what do I need to play on-line? Do I need the X Box Online bundle? Then what? Do I just plug it into my phone line and away I go? I have DSL, so I think I'm good to go there...
All you need to go online is included with the Xbox/Forza. There's a coupon for 90 days free access to Live! in the box.
The easiest/short-term solution is to plug the Xbox directly to your DSL modem (that means no computer while you're gaming). There are instructions with the Xbox for setting this up.
The better/long-term solution is to install a router between your DSL modem and your Xbox/PC. That means you can use both at the same time! Although, gaming performance suffers if someone is downloading big files while you're playing. I'll be happy to help you with either part.
If you have any doubt, swing by the house and try it out, but this is a serious racing fix.
I'm heading to Best Buy at lunch... :geek:
She won't kill you until it's 3 am and you crank the volume up so you can hear the Ferrari 360 (not Challenge Stradale, which doesn't sound as fierce) engine scream just a little bit more clearly...
BTW... the headset is not necessary to play on Live! but it certainly makes it more fun... Last night about 11:30 we switched in to full laugh riot mode discussing the encroachment of role playing elements in to driving games...
About that time I tried to out break a faster car going in to a hairpin, failed, tagged his passenger door and spun into the weeds. He said "Ha! I foiled your +5 carbon fiber brakes by defending with my +8 reinforced door panel!"
Some of you may get this. You're probably better off if you don't.
As long as you collected his life points you'll be fine!! :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
So... anybody else playing this yet???
Depends... when's the Open House at the tailchaser household? :afro:Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
May 30th is my birthday and the wife has clear instructions that it what I want.
I would like to include a specific steering wheel for her to get me but I'm worried about the lack of forced feedback. Would I just be wasting money with an X-box steering wheel?
Right now I'm playing Project Gotham Racing 2. That game will still be fun for 4 player action.
4 player? Meh. Get online. It is your birthday, after all...
That X-box is already the time sucking machine from Hell. (Or heaven, depends on who you talk to.) I can't justify the time I'd spend playing video games if at any time I could pick it up and play against other people.
I held out on X-box live when they released Halo 2, I'm going to try to stay stong for this game to. I think it might be tougher.
Well, work... ah,er,um..."intervened", and I wasn't able to pick up the XBox at lunch. And now I'm in Chicago for the rest of the week. And then there's this. Should I wait 6 months for the XBox 360? Decisions, decisions... :shaking2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kestrel
I doubt we'll see Forza 2 until this time next year at the earliest... Though I would love to be proven wrong. The XBox 360 just begs for an incredibly detailed racing simulator with the multi-core processor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kestrel
In the meantime, you can have a heck of a lot of fun blasting around courses in your Ferrari 355 (with your own custom Kestrel Racing paint scheme, of course), trading paint with Porsche GT2s along the way...
Last night I was racing in my 355 on the game's "Roval" course. I had started near the back of the grid and spent the first lap working past traffic. I needed to get around my teammate's GT3 quickly so that I could catch the 355 ahead of him and draft around the oval. He heard me coming as we approached turn 2, and took the defensive line. No problem, I thought, as the balance of the Ferrari let me carry more speed through the turns 2/3 complex. So, I took the outside line on 2 to set up inside on 3. Gee... guess what happens next? Teammate doesn't quite get the speed bled for his inside defensive line and tries to mate with my Ferrari through turn 2. As we exited turn 3 side by side, I backed off the gas for a split second so I could track right for a high speed left hand sweeper leading to a "Ferrari Straight". I tucked in behind the GT3 and got back on the gas. Moments before I was ready to initiate my turn, I saw brake lights on the Porsche. Yipes! I tapped the brakes and turned hard left. Too soon... The 355 vaulted off the inside curbing and careened into the side of the Porsche. I saw it spinning in my mirror as I flew down the straight in search of 1st place.
Human competition rocks, btw...
Must ... resist ... X-box Live.
I want to buy an xbox so bad!!!
The power in you is strong, young bell... Join me on the dark side!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bell
Where do I get the Xbox/Forza? At Best Buy, all they seemed to have was the Xbox / Crimson Tide or some such rubbish...Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
I don't think there's a package deal for it...
THE GAME IS MINE!
All I had to do was spend my entire weekend building a new stair and I got it as "my reward".
Now to find time to play it.
any body have any TCB X-boxes?
Opened the game last night and put a solid 4 hours of racing down.
Unbelievably awesome.
I don't even know where to begin.
A physics engine to match no other.
I actually saw a TV commercial for this game last night.... *sigh*... while I don't want to buy yet another game system..........
E-bay yourself a cheap used one.
You will not be dissapointed.
You probably won't find cheap ones here until the 360 comes out... and that's ONLY if the 360 is backwards compatible.
RJ