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I found this Mechanic’s Tale about VWs pretty amusing.
Some excerpts:
“Sooner or later the customer will meet a Toyota owner and discover this is not normal. You can only count on those old Sixties kids buying VWs for so much longer. “
“If it takes more than one paragraph in the manual to check the auto trans fluid (currently 14 pages and climbing), you're doing something wrong.”
Nice! :D
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Imagine that. Same thing happened on an '85 VW Quantum I once had the misfortune of owning. :banghead:Quote:
In the year 2000, a customer came in to show him the great deal she got on a leftover (brand-new) '99 VW Passat. I guess he couldn't hide the look of disappointment on his face because she said, "What's wrong, you don't like it?" To date, Joe can verify $12,000 in repairs and maintenance to that same vehicle, and there are sure to be some dealer bills he hasn't seen. At 20,000 miles it required complete four-wheel brake replacement. At 40,000 miles the water pump impeller broke, causing an overheat. (Before hearing the story I would have said that water pump impellers never break.) The power windows failed one by one all the way around.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'll never buy a car from a company that hasn't figured out how to make a decent power window (a relatively simple and robust piece of equipment, when done right) in over 20 years. :razz:
My mother got a brand new Beetle in high school back in the 70's and drove it for at least 100k miles before it got ran over by a truck and no problems. We had a 94 Jetta and put 230k miles on it with no problems and my friend just sold a 91 Jetta with over 200k miles on it and had no major problems. Another friend had a 90 Jetta that got wrecked pretty bad but still technically drivable and we tied to kill it and the sucker kept running.
So, guess it's in the eye of the beholder....you say bad, I say good
:confused: I was extatic with the 99+ Jetta power windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
As much as I would tend to agree with the majority of the tech's rants (especially being that I have a '99 Passat of my own...) I have to disagree with Altiain's windows comments. I love the windows on this car... sweet stuff!
Damn straight! I spend 20 min in my friends 99 playing with them! Auto down, auto up even on the passenger side!Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
Especially the pinch protection feature... but I digress.Quote:
Originally Posted by icepenguin66
YEs... lets stay on topic.... VWs suck! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
Yes, VWs suck and are the most unreliable cars ever, and the Miata is a chick car for women and effeminate men. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Wait... wait... let's see... wasn't there a recall recently on the Muranos?Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
If VWs are so reliable, why have they finished near the bottom of every quality survey I've seen since I was like 16 years old? They're even worse than GM! :razz:Quote:
Originally Posted by icepenguin66
That may be true but I still would not purchase a GM product.Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
I've got a GM product that's gone 37 years with power windows and hasn't had a power window failure!!! :flower:Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
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Classic iron exluded... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
They had power windows back then? :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Every car manufacturer has their recalls and problems. And I don't see why everyone thinks GM is unreliable, maybe the interior quality was pretty cheap from the mid 80's until the past few years but they are just like Ford IMO...run forever no matter how much of a POS they may come to be. The designs may be lame or the car underpowered or handles like a boat, but they last. My father's 71 Camaro was a half-rusted POS with almost no interior left and plants growing all over it when we found it but the bastard still ran and actually drove quite well considering the car was neglected behind someone's barn for 20 years! :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
Now, I do have a little against Chrysler/Dodge since my parents have had first had experience with horrible reliability in a new car.
I would say Honda, Toyota, are the most reliable cars and probably put Ford and GM tied for 3rd. I know VW's aren't going to win the most reliable contest but they are not the POS's that a lot of people think. Just like Dodge/Chrysler, untill late late 90's they were POS IMO. That's what I think based on my experience with cars through family and friends racing and such.
Watch that POS stuff! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by icepenguin66
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There exists a POS shield???Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Sure! It automatically protects you against buying Yugos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
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:lol: I didn't even catch that!Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing