What can anyone tell me about toyo t1r's compared to 615's or rs2's?
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What can anyone tell me about toyo t1r's compared to 615's or rs2's?
T1R- better in the rain, softer ride, quieter rideQuote:
Originally Posted by driftdevil
615- more grip, better turn-in
So, do you want a nice ride with decent grip, or do you prefer balls to the wall?
Yea what he said but insert in RS2s where he has 615. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Have the T1R on our '02 they are nice riding tires, but just don't seem as sporty as the RS2 it had on it before. Wife says she just don't like the feel of them as compared to the RS2.
I run the RS2 on the POSIII and really like them!
But what do you want in tire???
I haven't seen a really good comparison of the RS2 to the 615.
Road and Track just had an article comparing tires for the MX-5. Sadly, neither of the above were tested/mentioned. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
That would be interesting! ::Teacher:Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Go get a set of RS2s Titus and report your finding her by Monday, Thanks!
I guess the balls to the wall as titus put it. Just saw them on edgeracing.com and didn't know about them. I was interested due to coming in a 205/45/15 instead of 205/50
I'll tell you what... You bring a car with 15" RS2s on them to the first S2K of '07 and we can swap wheels at lunch. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
If you want balls to the wall, the T1R is out and that is the only one that comes in 205/45/15.Quote:
Originally Posted by driftdevil
No! I want the answer by Monday December 4, 2006 ya slacker! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
But I guess we could try your way also.
I would say that the RS-2 has performance that is close to the performance of the RT-615 but with better ride quality and wet performance. I've been happy with the RS-2 for my street tire autocrossing.
The T1-R has some great (shorter) sizes, but I think the performance would be a let down after driving on the RS-2 or RT-615.
Ok... Drag your butt over to my house Monday and we will do the test on the street. ::Banana::Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Bump Revival, I need to get new tires and was thinking of the RS-2, after loosing it and knowing that my current tires are shot, I think this would be a good time to get some new tires. Thoughts, At this point I am thinking the rs2 or the t1r. 205/40/17
Discuss
R-S2s and T1Rs will not help you next time it gets cold. They're summer tires and don't like the cold weather.
Since you put so many miles on the car and not a ton of time on the track, I'd look into the T1Rs. I've also heard good things about the Goodyear GS-D3. My favorite daily driver tire I've driven on was the P-Zero Nero.
MM
Did some looking into the P-zero's and they look good, how would they handle a few track days? say 1 at MSR and 1 at Hallet?
Nothing is going to make a car better on ice, other than studded tires.
Get some Blizzaks... then you have a built in excuse when TtT beats you on the track! ::Banana::
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Originally Posted by Titus
Been there...done that::Banana::
I am having fun on my 15'' RT-615's. A grippier tire than the Kooks on my other wheels.
P-Zeros are teh SUCK. Buy my black rims and keep some all seasons on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magma
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Originally Posted by Magma
I got 15k street miles and 60 autocross runs on the P-Zeros on my M3. I was running the summer version, but they have a all season version (M&S) that has a higher treadware rating.
TC, did you have a bad experience with Pirellis?
Yeah... The P-Zeros on onething's car were so slippery... I looked at them and fell down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miatamoto
May I suggest Kumho's new SPT tires? Inexpensive summer tires with good all around characteristics, and not nearly as dangerous in bad weather as some other dedicated summer tires out there. I've got about 1000 miles on a set so far, including a couple of ice/sleet days in the RX-8, and I'm pretty happy with them so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miatamoto
and louder than Azenis with a million miles on them. I started calling them P-Zero Zeros.Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
hmmm... well they worked great on my M3, including autocross duty. I'd go with Onething and TC's suggestion though, b/c tires tend to work differently with different cars and sizes. :confused:
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I am in need of tires and don't want to start another tire thread so....
RS-2, or something cheaper?
The car is mainly a DD with 1 or 2 track events and maybe an S2K AX.
:cat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Magma
F U POS
Lookie what I found ::Bleh::
For street driving, the R-S2 and T1-R are fine in the cold, just not Ice and Snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miatamoto
In the Ice and Snow you wouldn't believe how much worse than all season tires both the RS2 and the T1R where. Very Bad!
But I was amazed at the T1-R's grip in very cold rain.(uper 30˚s)
For the track/AutoX they just take a long time to heat up, when it's cold outside. I'd look for a make shift skid-pad, you can destroy these tires on the track if they're cold.
For a spirited daily driver and maybe a focus day or two.
I'd go for the T1-Rs
(great wet performance, very comfortable ride, quite and much more grip, wet or dry, than all season tires)
For a spirited daily driver and a few full track days or autoX I'd go with the RS2. (Less sidewall flex and better dry grip than the T1-R, stiffer ride but still comforable, and much more grip, wet or dry, than all season tires)
For more track time than that I'd go with the Azenis.
(noticeable less sidewall flex than the RS2 at lower air pressures, a bit more grip in the dry, slightly quicker turn-in, but not great in the wet, they can be loud as #ell and the ride can beat you to death on the street)
All of my experience with these tires where on 16" wheels so there might be a difference on 15"s
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Originally Posted by scmx5driver
+1 That's what I have.
Reasons:
Better tread life than the others mentioned
Predictible handling in most of the Texas weather
CB Approved when I bought them. $60 ea. for 195/50/15
My car is a daily driver and driven by the DW regularly so I didn't want to have questionable rain handling. The last set of Falkens I had hydroplaned like a jet ski.
Thanks Skirt, I have 16's now so that is what i am looking at 215/45/16Quote:
Originally Posted by scmx5driver
I realize that Snow/Ice means try not to go to work, but I am looking into good wet performance, so right now it is looking like the RS-2's.
Does anyone local carry them?
My guess is that you are looking for that in other areas??:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Magma
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Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher
Well since I am single, I am always looking for that
Repeat after me... Al Cavan, Discount Tire, Coit & 190. Accept NO substitutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magma
+eleventygazillion...Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
Remember, if you say "Discount Tire" without "Al Cavan", you're just getting Discount Tire...
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Originally Posted by tailchaser
What's this guys name again? :rolleyes: How much does he charge to mount and balance? I'm still working on a deal for those of us who don't live in Oklahoma.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave04
Maybe you should move out of Mexico Sammm.:rolleyes:
No deals for mount & balance, but I think altiain may have figured out an eastside deal for that...Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
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Originally Posted by sammm
Sammm, the discount in Grand Prairie on Pioneer Pkwy. has meet/beat online prices for me on more than one occasion with absolutely no questions asked.
I can get them to match tire pricing, I'm just looking to sweeten the deal with a better OTD (out-the-door) price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miatamoto
¿qué?Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio-Active