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Looking at a few 1.6L NA's and drove one today, the car drove great but I noticed that in 1-3rd gear there was a bit of whining noise while the car was in gear and accelerating. Seemed that in 4th or 5th cruising at a constant speed it was gone. Shifting itself was fine and nothing seemed to out of the ordinary, is this a typical problem? Could changing the tranny/diff fluid out make a difference?
Did the whine go up and down with your speed or did it remain somewhat constant pitch? Mine has a whine that is constant (differential) and changing out fluid in tranny and rear didn't change anything.
Whining, in the gearbox and on this board, are, unfortunately, pretty much standard fare for the early Miatas. ;)
I know mine almost sounded like straight cut gears it made so much noise...
Did you give it some cheese to go along with the whine? J/K
As gears wear, the lash get's greater and they don't mesh as well as they did when they were new. The gears you mentioned have a higher ratio and are used more frequently, therefore they are subjected to more stress and wear.
Well the car has 160K miles on it and it shifted just fine 1-5. I don't quite remember if the whine went up or down as the RPMs increased but it almost sounded like a mini supercharger. I did notice that at regular constant cruising it didn't really make that noise and i think after I shifted into 3rd or 4th it was also much quieter.
The overall car was very well maintained with detailed records. It had the water pump, timing belt, thermostat, valve cover gasket, fluids replaced within the last 20K miles and the interior was nice. I just wanted to know if the gear whine is a huge point of concern down the road if it drives fine overall.
Well if there are no other issues with the rest of the car then I would say it is not worth worrying about. You can pick up a trans for @ $250 and they really aren't to hard to install. It would also give you an opportunity to install a better clutch and flywheel.
Sounds good, I was impressed with the car otherwise. It had a new clutch put in about 20K miles ago and was driven by a mid to late 30's woman who's owned it for the last 5-6 years. She bought a 10AE so this one had to go and I think it was treated nicer than most the other used FS miata's I've seen. I made them an offer last night and they accepted, just have to get it from CA to TX now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyin96M
BTW it's a 93 LE ;)
Congrats!!!!! Mine whines a bit, always has, nothing has given up yet. If you would PM me what you paid, I'd like to keep up with the market on high mileage LE's. 227k on mine now. Look forward to seeing it.
Darn, I was hoping I'd be the only one in the area but it's nice to have a twin. Any pics of yours? Also is FM2 the flying miata turbo kit? PM sent by the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
Join us on this list too. http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/93LE/
I know of at least 4 other LE's that are on this list, so we now we're up to 5.
I need to take some pics of mine, it's been awhile. Yes, I have the flyin' miata turbo kit. I got lucky and bought it with a lower mileage engine. The price was too good to pass up.
Now I guess I should go wash it.
Forget pictures. Stevan and I want to get all 5 together and have a beer somewhere. If we can't get the other 2, we'll at least have 3.
Anyone happen to know any car movers? Need to get this thing from Socal home to Dallas. Open trailer is fine, I think the last one we used was 600 bucks from LA to Dallas but i can't find the paperwork.
Titus moved his car from Cali to Texi several years back... he'll have a couple of links for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmosMpower
Thanks I'll shoot him a PMQuote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
Buy a plane ticket and hotel fare.
It'll be worth it. :drive:
Drive it. My dad will hook you up with a place to stay in Albuquerque. He has an LE too.
This is the option I would take especially this time of the year! Of course it is a long drive in a high mileage car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio-Active
Nah... half of that drive will be in this state alone! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyin96M
He's already out there. Drive it home. The car had all the major stuff done in the last 20k miles. It'll make it.
I read the thread title as Miata driver whining noise :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
So what's your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonza..._2947/410w.jpg
I'd do it in a heart beat.
Nah I have to be at work on Tuesday so that's out of the question. Probably gonna use DAS (dependable auto shippers) we used them last time, quote is around 500.
As far as the gear whine goes, I picked the car up tonight and it has pretty severe supercharger loud whine gears 1-2-3, quiet in 4th and a bit in 5th. Has a bit of chatter in gear with the RPM's dropping so I suspect it's the tranny/flywheel/clutch or something like that. Shifts smooth though and drives just great.
Congrats! ::Banana::
Can't wait to see it.
Saw the thread, and was thought I was the only one with some whining in the drivetrain. But, after reading a few, I can rest assured. I AutoX mine quite a bit and take it to the track every so often. The car shifts fine, and it too sounds like a mini supercharger. But I had also been driving a '61 Chevy P/U before this, so I was accustomed to gear noises.
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Originally Posted by Radio-Active
That it's a big state and it takes a while to cross... regardless of speed.
We're not talking Rhode Island here.
My 2001 has a turbo like whine at 2500-3000 rpm especially in 1-3 gears. My friends 99 doesn't have the "whine". Glad this is just normal(?)
How long has yours done that? Is it in every gear or just the first few? Mine also has a bit of rattling as the RPM's drop in gear. I'm not too worried since a tranny is so cheap and it drives alright, no grinding and the gear shifting is smooth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Machismo
Hmm, the rattling could maybe be a flywheel issue. Don't know. Some lightened flywheels will chatter. Mine has done it since I owned the car. 105,000 miles on it, bought it with 87,000 on the OD. My noise is most prominent when engine braking in upper gears like exiting the highway or something where you just throttle lift. I also have to suspect my pilot bearing as it was more noticable after installing a better clutch. When I am just barely on throttle in 2nd gear I can hear the gear mesh.
Possibly, I did see that about 20K miles ago the clutch was replaced and flywheel resurfaced but maybe it didn't have enough material left on it. I have a feeling down the road it will just be a new clutch/tranny/flywheel but it drives fine now so maybe I'll just pretend like I have a blower under the hood with no belt attached :burnrubr:Quote:
Originally Posted by Machismo
Ha! That's what I do. I don't the condition of my flywheel, however Shannon from MSR installed the clutch, so I trust he would have said something if it was marginal. He went so far as to replace some other things that weren't even clutch related. One to listen for is if it is intermittent, say every 8 ft.; then it is differential.
Nah it's not the diff, it's in random gears and doesn't happen when you're in gearing and the car is decelerating only upon 1-3rd gear acceleration. Any other ideas on what it might be besides the bearings in the tranny going bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Machismo
I do know that Mazda makes non serviceable u-joints for their driveshafts. These are weak links and see a ton of use. But more than likely just wear in the gears, as they are so fun to shift. They will really start talking to you when things are going bad. Hard shifts are usually a first sign, so unless you drag race every where you go you should have many many miles left it the box.
When the front bearing of my diff. went out it made a whining noise, but when you get the car we'll ride in each others cars and see if it's the whine I was talking about earlier.
Sounds good, car is scheduled to get here Thursday. I'd love to feel what a turbo 1.6 feels like too, I heard the greddy kit is dirt cheapQuote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
That very well may be the cause for mine as well.