Standard Presumptive Value and Auto Sales Tax

[Monkey of Death]

Where do they get their numbers?!? I bought my '01 in Jan 2006 and paid $8,000. If I bought it today, they would charge me for a value of $10,725. And that's two years later!! What kind of value would they have slapped me with two years ago, given that their current numbers are off by almost $3,000? Sales tax should be based on what you spend, not what someone thinks you should have spent. If it wasn't for tracking down a good deal, I wouldn't have been able to get an NB. There are millions of reasons you might be able to buy a car for less than 'market value', so who the hell are they to tell us what we should have paid? What a load of Last time the government tried crap like this, we threw all the tea into the harbor

[Billy Blaze]

stay tuned there is more to come

[Radio-Active]

If you buy it from a dealer with a bill of sale, then the state ought to be forced in only charging you tax on what you paid for it. I know they don't. I saw a guy last year get hit with paying tax for twice the amount he paid for it and he had a dealers contract in front of him at the tax office. He asked the lady if she wouldn't mind getting the state to buy it from him at the price they were taxing him on it for.

[Billy Blaze]

You guys are missing the point, there should be no tax.

There is a reason why you never see the REAL title to your car (certificate of origin), that is sent to Austin to be shreaded and you get back a "certificate of title"....which means that the state of Texas own a little piece of your vehicle and you are going to pay them some money every year and a large amount upon purchase.

There should be no tax YOU have the RIGHT to travel, untaxed!

that being said.....I have never had a vehicle with the certificate of origin, but I have seen a few and know one man who was able to do this and never had to get plates, inspection, or pay taxes....just a smart ordinary guy, that got pulled over alot to which he would show his COMPLETE ownership of his vehicle and the cops wou leave him alone "if they knew the law" but he got pulled over a lot.

[Titus]

You guys are missing the point, there should be no tax.

There is a reason why you never see the REAL title to your car (certificate of origin), that is sent to Austin to be shreaded and you get back a "certificate of title"....which means that the state of Texas own a little piece of your vehicle and you are going to pay them some money every year and a large amount upon purchase.

There should be no tax YOU have the RIGHT to travel, untaxed!

that being said.....I have never had a vehicle with the certificate of origin, but I have seen a few and know one man who was able to do this and never had to get plates, inspection, or pay taxes....just a smart ordinary guy, that got pulled over alot to which he would show his COMPLETE ownership of his vehicle and the cops wou leave him alone "if they knew the law" but he got pulled over a lot.

This sounds like the kind of advice that Wesley Snipes was getting. I spend some time on a one of the Locost kit forums where all of the cars start with a statement of origin from the kit manufacturer. This statement of origin is required to get the car titled, and I have never heard of anyone trying to avoid the title process. YMMV.

[HudsonHawk]

I put my Jeeps VIN into the link just to see what they said. It kicked back and said th VIN was not long enough. Guess there is no SPV on a '72 CJ-5

The Miata came back at $3,900 and the RAM at $17,000.

[black roadster]

I put my Jeeps VIN into the link just to see what they said. It kicked back and said th VIN was not long enough. Guess there is no SPV on a '72 CJ-5

Vehicles NOT Subject to Standard Presumptive Value Taxation

• New vehicles
• Vehicles purchased from licensed dealers
• Vehicles purchased at public auction
• Vehicles 25 years old or older
• Off-road vehicles, such as dirt bikes or all-terrain vehicles (ATVs)
• Salvage or abandoned vehicles (except rebuilt salvage vehicles)
• Vehicles sold through a mechanic or storage lien
• Vehicles given as gifts
• Even-trade vehicles, when vehicles of equal value are swapped by the owners

[Darron65]

Interesting... I entered the VIN number of my horse trailer and it couldn't give me a value...

I entered the VIN for my RMB and it didn't pull anything.

IIRC, there is no standard VIN decoder for trailers. I've designed and built a few and registration required whatever VIN I dreamed up that day.

[trickyrix]

This sounds like the kind of advice that Wesley Snipes was getting. I spend some time on a one of the Locost kit forums where all of the cars start with a statement of origin from the kit manufacturer. This statement of origin is required to get the car titled, and I have never heard of anyone trying to avoid the title process. YMMV.

Yeah, there's no way you can get out of the registration/inspection process, even with the Statement of Origin. Back when my dad had a dealer's license, he would buy new cars and drive them on the MSO with dealer plates. He never had to apply for a title (and therefore never had to pay sales tax), but he still had to run plates and get an inspection sticker (albeit this was back in the day of "carry out" stickers ). I'm not sure how the laws have changed, but I don't know if you an run a car on an MSO at all any more - just because the state wants their chunk of the sales tax.