Equipe Rapide Challenge Cup #1, Feb 26th

[EricJ]

The lot PCA used for the autocross class last year at the Ballpark was just North of the little league field. They didn't rent port-a-johns, everyone walked to the little league field bathrooms, about the same distance as at Lone Star Park.

[cone-cerned]

BTW - which lot at the Ballpark was used? In scanning them, i only see one that is really large enough to be better than PMS, south of the Ballpark, East of JerryWorld, just east of the creek.

The one event that I attended was on the odd shaped lot north of the Hotel and along I-30. Google Maps says it is Lot F.

[TxCoyote]

BTW - which lot at the Ballpark was used? In scanning them, i only see one that is really large enough to be better than PMS, south of the Ballpark, East of JerryWorld, just east of the creek.

I think it is the East of Jerry location. If I remember it is somewhat L shaped.

[GroceryHauler]

I think it is the East of Jerry location. If I remember it is somewhat L shaped.

I take it you guys are talking about this lot: http://binged.it/x5YgQm

[TxCoyote]

I take it you guys are talking about this lot: http://binged.it/x5YgQm

I don't think that is it. I checked the MAV website and it is Ranger Stadium, Lot F

[GroceryHauler]

I don't think that is it. I checked the MAV website and it is Ranger Stadium, Lot F

This one? http://binged.it/zoRlHJ

[TxCoyote]

Yup, thats the one

[OZMDD]

Yup, thats the one

that's not really very big. 350'x550-600', depending on where you measure it in the drivable area. Nice, but hard to imagine it being worth double the price of other venues, especially since it has light poles and limited configuration. Two of the light poles (NW, SE) are close enough to the curb that you couldn't run the course in-between. I do like the way you could have paddock and grid on the smaller side, away from the course area.

[jrj512]

Here are the lot sizes.

[Robert]

Now that I see the sizes. Not worth it. I would rather go to Mineral Wells, or LSP.

[TxCoyote]

that's not really very big. 350'x550-600', depending on where you measure it in the drivable area. Nice, but hard to imagine it being worth double the price of other venues, especially since it has light poles and limited configuration. Two of the light poles (NW, SE) are close enough to the curb that you couldn't run the course in-between. I do like the way you could have paddock and grid on the smaller side, away from the course area.

I don't make the pricesBut I do recall the grip level being very good and the pavement being consistent.

[TxCoyote]

Here are the lot sizes.

Never been to TMS West or GSW Airport? What/where is it?

[nomadtrash]

TMS West is the entire paved lot on the West side of the venue. It is huge. I ran a divisional or National Tour there and it was a 90 second course. I remember Scott McQueen getting the three rotor sprite running at what seemed like 20,000 rpms. Now the lot is in such poor repair that it isn't worth using. There are cracks and mud and potholes.

[jrj512]

Never been to TMS West or GSW Airport? What/where is it?

GSW Airport is at the north end of Amon Carter Blvd where it meets 183 between Irving and Euless. Amon Carter Blvd used to be a runway back in the day. There used to be a short tunnel on 183 where it ran under the runway. They say it was REALLY hard on tires and the layout is not that great, anyway.

TMS West is the entire paved lot on the West side of the venue. It is huge. I ran a divisional or National Tour there and it was a 90 second course. I remember Scott McQueen getting the three rotor sprite running at what seemed like 20,000 rpms. Now the lot is in such poor repair that it isn't worth using. There are cracks and mud and potholes.

Plus, they stopped letting us use it, anyway. They said we were tearing it up. It got pretty tore up without us.

[TxCoyote]

TMS West is the entire paved lot on the West side of the venue. It is huge. I ran a divisional or National Tour there and it was a 90 second course. I remember Scott McQueen getting the three rotor sprite running at what seemed like 20,000 rpms. Now the lot is in such poor repair that it isn't worth using. There are cracks and mud and potholes.

Sounds like MW

[nomadtrash]

Not like MW.

[OZMDD]

Don't hate on MW. It's not ideal, but many regions would give a left nut and run events on Tuesdays to have ONE site like it, much less the selection we have here. Just saying, Race Tire Boy! Get some R-comps for that wagon of yours!

[TxCoyote]

Don't hate on MW. It's not ideal, but many regions would give a left nut and run events on Tuesdays to have ONE site like it, much less the selection we have here. Just saying, Race Tire Boy! Get some R-comps for that wagon of yours!

Not a MW hater. And I know we are fortunate but........... I like MW other than the 6 pounds of gravel that wind up in the car each event. The drive kind of sucks too. 2 hrs each way for me. Towing that equates to about $50-60 in gas. TMS, LSP, Pennington all under an hour for me. I'll always go to MW events but if there are two in conflict, especially in the heat, I'm going to the closer one.

[OZMDD]

Sounds like a business opportunity: TXCoyote's Discount Gravel - "we deliver!"

[altiain]

Oh, how I miss the TMS west lot. Okay, I don’t miss the (literally!) half mile walk back from the far end corner station, but I do miss 140+ second courses that were deep into third gear.

That was far and away the best autocross site we ever had in DFW. It’s a damn shame we can’t use it any more.

EDIT: Missed the comment above about the TMS west lot current condition. That’s too bad. It was an amazing place while it lasted.