Well Andy since you decided to throw crap let me say that I have never "complained" about the the thickness of any slabs at any ER events. To do so would be very insensitive with respect to dimensionally challenged participants. As far as a couple of comments with respect to site conditions, which in a 'club' paying members should be able to provide, if those constructive comments are not welcome we will certainly choose to stay home and not participate. If you would like further input please feel free to contact me directly as you have that information on the membership form that I submit to ER every year, though this will be the last one. We've always been willing to help out and do a little extra at events without the split heat perks that come to some. With other options to choose from we'll just sit out the ER events from now on as I did not know what a pain we apparently we are to have at your social events...... Respectfully, Steve E.