NTAXS Winter Autocross, 1/26/2013, Dallas Raceway

[strathound]

A civic si is no match for even an NA Miata, much less an NC. Also, his power is only there when in VTEC.

Well, we'll see. He also owns a 500hp corvette.

[CosmosMpower]

A civic si is no match for even an NA Miata, much less an NC. Also, his power is only there when in VTEC.

While all that is true the main point is if he has never autocrossed he wouldn't win even in an Ariel Atom.

[CosmosMpower]

Well, we'll see. He also owns a 500hp corvette.

Ask him if he wants to drag race from a stop. I only have a measly 3.8L V6

[strathound]

While all that is true the main point is if he has never autocrossed he wouldn't win even in an Ariel Atom.

Well, neither have I. So I think it will be fun to see what happens. Both cars are bone stock. Both drivers are complete newbs. Let the games begin. :)

[POS Racing]

So there is a battle looming for this event. My buddy is bringing out his Civic Si and I've already started talking a lot of trash. It will be Team Miata vs. Team Honda, MX-5 vs. Civic Si, Texas vs. Mississippi, good vs. bad, you get the picture. He's got 2.4L and 200hp. I've got talent and striking good looks. I'm feeling good about my chances.

:)

A civic si is no match for even an NA Miata, much less an NC. Also, his power is only there when in VTEC.

Well, we'll see. He also owns a 500hp corvette.

I guess I don't get the picture??

How does the fact he has a Vette change the outcome of a Team Miata vs. Team Honda, MX-5 vs. Civic Si, Texas vs. Mississippi, good vs. bad, blah blah blah??

Am I missing something here???

I take it you are the one from Mississippi??

[strathound]

Ask him if he wants to drag race from a stop. I only have a measly 3.8L V6

Nah, he knows he's got too much power and not enough grip. He's told me before that he thinks the Civic might be faster 0-60 because the vette just can't hook up. Sounds great, brings the rumble to the jungle. But he probably wouldn't race you. I'm looking forward to the day he puts R Comp tires on there and takes it out to ECR. That will be fun to watch.

I think he's coming out to JJ's tonight. If you are there, you can ask him about it.

MS

[strathound]

I guess I don't get the picture??

How does the fact he has a Vette change the outcome of a Team Miata vs. Team Honda, MX-5 vs. Civic Si, Texas vs. Mississippi, good vs. bad, blah blah blah??

Am I missing something here???

I take it you are the one from Mississippi??

Doesn't change anything. Just saying ... probably don't want to beat the Si too bad, lest he get serious, put the R Comps on the vette and then crush my Miata out there.

I don't know what I'm talking about, lol. I'll shut up now.

[rmonheim]

I autocrossed my '07 Si a few times before I got my NA. The Si doesn't even come close, it's just too heavy.

[strathound]

I autocrossed my '07 Si a few times before I got my NA. The Si doesn't even come close, it's too heavy.

Hmmm, well that's disappointing. I knew it was heavier, but I expected the extra hp to make this a pretty even match. The 0-60 times and quarter mile times are really close with the Si slightly faster on both. I get that in the corners the lighter car would have an advantage. But the Si is only a few hundred pounds heavier than the NC. And I'm a hundred pounds heavier driver than he is. Thought it would even out on the track.

Oh, and the '12 Si has a 2.4L engine.

MS

[rmonheim]

Well I felt like the power of the Si was a bit wasted in autocross, It would understeer like you wouldn't believe coming out of hairpins. Of course this was on all season tires, but still. The miata just hooks up and goes. I think the miata is much easier for a new driver, because it has a more reasonable amount of power.

That car was fun though. I had it tuned and what not, revved to 8600rpm and made close to 240 N/A hp at the crank. Fantastic (2.0L) engine.

[altiain]

Ask him if he wants to drag race from a stop. I only have a measly 3.8L V6

How many times can you do that before your Japanese overlords void your warranty?

[slowchildmiata]

How many times can you do that before your Japanese overlords void your warranty?

-1

[CosmosMpower]

How many times can you do that before your Japanese overlords void your warranty?

1,000,000,000. I have LC2 which was created/approved for warranty after the LC1 fiasco/class action lawsuit. Now you can launch it to your hearts content...or until you get tired of digging your eyeballs out from the back of your head.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/20/r...sion-failures/

[cleave]

Well, neither have I. So I think it will be fun to see what happens. Both cars are bone stock. Both drivers are complete newbs. Let the games begin. :)

I'm bringing my bone stock GTI out as well, just for fun. I've done a few autocrosses before, but definitely not an expert. See you guys out there.

[strathound]

I'm bringing my bone stock GTI out as well, just for fun. I've done a few autocrosses before, but definitely not an expert. See you guys out there.

Sweet, you can compare times with us. The GTI ought to do well out there.

MS

[TexasStig]

This thread reminds me of the xtranormal Autox movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzrXwgMSy1Y

[TxCoyote]

This thread reminds me of the xtranormal Autox movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzrXwgMSy1Y

Funny

[rmonheim]

This thread reminds me of the xtranormal Autox movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzrXwgMSy1Y

Pretty much sums it up...

[TexasStig]

Pretty much sums it up...

Yup. Also, be sure to watch Part 2... the day after.

[BMcCann]

Preliminary weather for Saturday: 47 degrees, no chance of rain.

Leave those RS3s at home, boys...