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    ...and across the line.

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    To all of those "you'll pry my manual transmission from my cold dead hands" types out there - how many of you have really driven a good single or dual clutch automatic manual on the track at 10/10ths?

    I used to feel the same way, but over the last couple of years I've spent a lot of time demoing and instructing in cars with all manner of transmissions - including some new generation torque converted automatics - and I disagree that they're any less involving to drive. Are they different? Absolutely. Are some better than others? You bet. But I personally find the good ones every bit as challenging to wring a good lap out of.

    In other words, don't knock it until you've tried it.
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    I don't think that anyone (intelligent) will argue than a manual is "better" (and definitely not faster) than the dual clutch jobbers out there.

    I think it's more about personal achievement. I've always said that regardless of my times (because honestly, there's no way I'm going to be as fast as other people), if I can execute good heel toes, use the throttle and brake and gearing selection to balance the car, and feel connected to the car (ie. have fun in what I consider fun) then I feel like I've done a good job and had fun doing it.

    If I was out there trying to set lap records or trying to win more than a 4"x4" plaque and some bragging rights then I'd want any piece of technology that I could afford (and a few that I couldn't).

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    I agree that DCT's are not the numb slushbox experience that many expect them to be, and driving is no less challenging or exhilarating at 10/10ths with flappy paddles. I won't be shy to own one when the good stuff trickles down to my price range. I will, however, still always want to own a true manual transmission vehicle. Much like my throwback 47 chevy truck with its crappy carb, points, hydraulic lever shocks, etc, I embrace the experience for what it is: the connection to the vehicle and the unique way it is driven.

    Not all that different from the current single speed hardtail MTB trend. Its not necessarily the best, but it has its own merits.
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