Need some help here with tires

[Billy Blaze]

Hey guys, what would you recommend in 195/50/15 size?

I am looking on onlinetires,edgeracing,and tirerack and there just arent that many to choose from.
The problem I am having is the car feels completely different from the 205's now and the 195's before. I feel like there is much more slop in the steering and I don't like it at all.

the balancing issue is fixed.
Thanks

[black roadster]

Hey guys, what would you recommend in 195/50/15 size?

I am looking on onlinetires,edgeracing,and tirerack and there just arent that many to choose from.
The problem I am having is the car feels completely different from the 205's now and the 195's before. I feel like there is much more slop in the steering and I don't like it at all.

the balancing issue is fixed.
Thanks

I went with Toyo T1-R in 195's but avoid Online Tires!!!!

[Billy Blaze]

looks like I am just going to bite the bullet and ride on tires I dont like for another year, I paid too much for these 205's to switch to 195's that cost more than 50. each....and with what I have found, I'm stuck
Thanks for the help and advice guys at least the car isn't shaking while I'm driving down the road now.

[POS Racing]

Thanks for the help and advice guys at least the car isn't shaking while I'm driving down the road now.

What cured the shaking??

[Miatamoto]

Billy, I think the sloppiness will go away with time. When you go from bald tires to brand new ones you'll get a lot of tread squirm. I think that might be the sloppiness you're feeling.

[Billy Blaze]

The shaking was two tires were out by 3/4 of an ounce and one of the rear tires had to be rotated 180 degrees, it's much better now.

I am not so sure its just tread squirm, I think it may be a combination of that and them being just a taller tire, before.... if I moved my hand in any direction on the steering wheel the car would just dart in. now I can move my hand in an area 6 inches across the wheel and it dosent move just shake the rear end of the car.
I have lost a lot of the confidence in the cars ability to dodge things in the road due to this, I guess I just need some more seat time with these tires.

[sammm]

if I moved my hand in any direction on the steering wheel the car would just dart in. now I can move my hand in an area 6 inches across the wheel and it dosent move just shake the rear end of the car.

Did you get a 'less-agressive' alignment this time? That could explain some of it.

[Billy Blaze]

nope, same as before I am using the Icehawk #'s

[MadMerv]

Hey Billy! There is only a slight difference between those two tires. The side wall on the 205 is only 2/10th" taller, so they will flex a bit more, but not what you are describing. I don't know what the tread blocks look like on those tires, but what you are talking about sounds like squirm. My bet is that the big difference is a combination of tires, wheels, and alignment. You have new wheels, right? Are they the same width, same offset, same weight? How can you be sure if the alignment is the same if each was done at different places? I would look at both of those before blaming the tires. If it is the tires, it will get better if you give them some time and miles......

That said, I've always been more comfortable with the 195-50/15's :)

[Billy Blaze]

well I have the printout from the allignment and its the same as before, I think the wheels are half a pound heavier than the Konig Kolors the tires however are 4 pounds heavier than the ES's.
the wheels are the same size as the Konigs too 15X7.

I will get some more seat time in and hopfully they will get better.

[sammm]

I will get some more seat time in and hopfully they will get better.

How many miles do you have on them now? Maybe they're not scrubbed-in yet.

[Billy Blaze]

I would say now they have around 100 miles on them.
How long do you think it takes to scrub them in?

[POS Racing]

I would say now they have around 100 miles on them.
How long do you think it takes to scrub them in?

Since you don't like them they will never be correct, just hurry up and wear them out so ya can get what ya want!

[Treibenschnell]

Or give them away...

[MadMerv]

wheel offset, Billy......
wheel offset COULD make a huge difference (bump steer).

[Billy Blaze]

I thought that hubcentric rings took care of any wheel offset.
Is that not right?

[Treibenschnell]

I thought that hubcentric rings took care of any wheel offset.
Is that not right?

Nope. It just centers the wheel on the hub.

[POS Racing]

I thought that hubcentric rings took care of any wheel offset.
Is that not right?

Wheel Offset.

[Sharpie]

I didn't especially like my T1-R's for the first few hundred miles either, but now they're great. I noticed an immediate (better), than my worn out ES 100's. Same wheels and size though.

[Billy Blaze]

Thanks for the help, i am going to check the offeset tomorrow....and re-check the pressure.
I learned something today, woo hoo