It is interesting... I am a big fan of Keith's writing and his posting, and he has even been very nice and helpful when I have spoken to him on the phone. It seems that something has really moved him to the defensive in his postings lately (the loss of marketable FI kits?). Before Hallet, I had tried to lay down the FM-TDR challenge HERE. He quickly tried to defuse it HERE, so I decided to go easy on them when the results came out. I chose not to post the times to that thread and when I posted to the other thread, I purposely didn't take a shot directly at them. I was pretty surprised when he jumped in to the discussion at that point, when he could have let the numbers go by un-noticed by most. Oh well.