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    Quote Originally Posted by miataspeedracer View Post
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    These rookies are gearing up for the weekend like it's qualifying for Le Mans. Way too much R compound and testosterone in these novice groups...
    <<<<intermediate and i run hallett every month =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff_man View Post
    <<<<intermediate and i run hallett every month =)
    How many times have you been on track?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miatamoto View Post
    How many times have you been on track?
    75min CW 100min CCW hallett, 4 autox runs miata / 20-25 runs 88rx7. i was more defending the fact that i will be at the track more then just this weekend and i didn't go out and spend 2-2.2k for 4 runs at MSR

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff_man View Post
    75min CW 100min CCW hallett, 4 autox runs miata / 20-25 runs 88rx7. i was more defending the fact that i will be at the track more then just this weekend and i didn't go out and spend 2-2.2k for 4 runs at MSR
    ... so you're saying your a rookie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miatamoto View Post
    ... so you're saying your a rookie.
    but not novice group rookie

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    Jeff, with three total hours of track time under you're belt, you're definitely still a greehorn rookie. In fact, you're probably more dangerous than someone with no track experience, because you've got just enough experience to think you know it all, but not nearly enough to know what to do if something really goes wrong.

    Good luck out there this weekend. Keep it shiny side up.
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    ditto

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    some people say you wont learn but all i had for the event was run my 340s or go buy some 200s and also daily drive them. a deal on Rs and rims cam up so i took it. on top of that i plan to be at the track enough for the rest of the year to just have a set of track tires. when it's time for new tires on my daily I'm going to get some nicer rubber and do some apex events on street tires. not trying to get Rs and say I'm a better drive because i have more grip.

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    That's all fine and good, and no one is telling you what to do. But what concerns people is for relative track newbies to hit the track with R-compounds, ESPECIALLY in a less advanced run group. Nothing good can come from that.

    1. You will learn next to nothing about your driving skills, since the R compounds will mask most bad habits and make you think you're a much better driver than you really are.
    2. Once those R compounds do let go, good luck trying to keep your Miata on the track.
    3. Above all, running those tires in a novice or even intermediate group will allow you to run deeper into corners and possibly crowd other not-so-experienced drivers on less sticky tires. That's a recipe for disaster.

    My advice to you: Keep your ego in check and don't rely on your tires to make you a hero. Give all other cars in your group enough room to drive to their capabilities.
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    more concerned with not wrecking my car then anything else

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff_man View Post
    more concerned with not wrecking my car then anything else
    If that's truly the case, leave your RA-1s at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwag View Post
    Great suggestion. I'm planning this for the future; once I have a daily driver. Gary@trackdog has 10kg front and 8kg - 450ish rear Swift Springs on the "track dog".
    I suggested to Jeff that he might consider disconnecting the rear bar for the weekend, last night.
    I have been meaning to up the rear rates to 350-400lb springs since I put the SM 325lb springs in. I really like the 700lb front SM springs, but always thought the rear was way too soft.

    Quote Originally Posted by miataspeedracer View Post
    If that's truly the case, leave your RA-1s at home.
    Learn on slower, less-forgiving tires and you'll be even faster with the sticky rubber.
    Wealth, power, and experience are apparently not enough to save us from social influences. Groupthink, as described by I.L.Janis, is the tendency for group members to reach a consensus opinion, even if that decision is downright stupid (Janis 1982).

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    Quote Originally Posted by miataspeedracer View Post
    If that's truly the case, leave your RA-1s at home.
    i plan to run the 1st section and maybe even the 2nd on my pos street tires just so i can see how mush the flexes and alignment really changed the car but then off to the Ra1s so i don't run my street tires dry, i don't have any more money for tires for at lest 2 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treibenschnell View Post
    I can see the headlines now... "You heard it here first!"
    ya right after the most famous words anyone can say, hey guys watch this

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff_man View Post
    ya right after the most famous words anyone can say, hey guys watch this
    No No No...

    Its hey guys, hold my beer and watch this
    Blah blah blah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiataMike View Post
    No No No...

    Its hey guys, hold my beer and watch this
    In my experience, these moments of poor judgment are more often preceded by "I betcha can't...". Some common examples include "I betcha can't beat me", "I betcha can't jump that gap", or my personal favorite, "Hey Jon... I betcha can't fit in that trunk".

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    It's going to be a high of 96 on Saturday.....wooooowheeeeee
    Better have that radiator and hoses in tiptop shape.

    BTW....23 sessions at MSR, 4 sessions at Hallett and I am NOT using R compounds. My Azeni's are just fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher View Post
    It's going to be a high of 96 on Saturday.....wooooowheeeeee
    Better have that radiator and hoses in tiptop shape.

    BTW....23 sessions at MSR, 4 sessions at Hallett and I am NOT using R compounds. My Azeni's are just fine
    I guess I can add a coolant flush to the list of stuff I have to do this week. What is the optimum coolant/water ratio? And which coolant?
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    I use the standard 50/50 but I also have a dual core radiator and a 160degree thermostat.
    I live where even the coyotes won't go...

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