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    Default Mazda MX-5 Miata Expected to Receive Extreme Makeover in 2012

    Not much info except that it's supposed to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazda's design head Laurens Van den Acker
    "We need to make it more dramatic and give it some balls."
    Interesting....
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    The pointy board is having a forceful discussion on this same topic right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by POS Racing View Post
    Wrong, but thanks for playing! Rogue's is about the 'mild' facelift in '09. Try to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave04 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mazda's design head Laurens Van den Acker
    "We need to make it more dramatic and give it some balls."
    Interesting....
    If Van de Kamp wants to give it some balls, what he really needs to do is put the 2.3L turbo motor under the hood.
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    I think it will at least be a hybrid power plant. The internal combustion engine is eventually going to be replaced.
    ...and across the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altiain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurens Van den Acker
    "We need to make it more dramatic and give it some balls."
    If Van de Kamp wants to give it some balls, what he really needs to do is put the 2.3L turbo motor under the hood.
    He probably means that it will have a spherical shift knob, spherical ends on the turn signal and wiper levers, spherical knobs on the radio, etc.

    A Turbo 2.3L done right (with full forged internals and no boost limiter in the ECU,) would be nice. Put a T56 behind it, (or any transmission with the 4th as 1:1 and 5th and 6th as overdrive ratios,) feeding the right rear, and that would be a quick car with the potential for great highway mileage. Tires might not last very long, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by black roadster View Post
    I think it will at least be a hybrid power plant. The internal combustion engine is eventually going to be replaced.
    Eventually, yes. 2012, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by black roadster View Post
    I think it will at least be a hybrid power plant. The internal combustion engine is eventually going to be replaced.
    By 2012, I would certainly expect a hybrid Mazda, but probably a 3 or a 6. The sports cars would likely remain non-hybrid for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MX-5EE View Post
    By 2012, I would certainly expect a hybrid Mazda, but probably a 3 or a 6. The sports cars would likely remain non-hybrid for now.
    You can buy a Mazda hybrid today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black roadster View Post
    I think it will at least be a hybrid power plant. The internal combustion engine is eventually going to be replaced.
    You realize every hybrid has an internal combustion engine as well, right?

    When the internal combustion engine is finally replaced, it won't be by hybrids. I guarantee it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by altiain View Post
    You realize every hybrid has an internal combustion engine as well, right?

    When the internal combustion engine is finally replaced, it won't be by hybrids. I guarantee it.

    Yes Iain, I know that. I was saying it would at least be a hybrid as the hybrid is a step away from the I.C.E. in that it also relies on alternative power in addition to fossil fuels.

    Assuming Obama gets the nod I think we will see an increase in federal MPG standards and auto manufactures will use hybrids initially to achieve those requirements.

    Eventually (within 10 years) I think we will see a major migration to something completely different than what we are used to now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by black roadster View Post

    Eventually (within 10 years) I think we will see a major migration to something completely different than what we are used to now.
    Not unless there is some sort of huge break through in battery technology or fuel cells.....just my two cents but I think pistons & valves will be around for a long time to come yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black roadster View Post
    Assuming Obama gets the nod
    Please God, no...

    Quote Originally Posted by VFR750 View Post
    Not unless there is some sort of huge break through in battery technology or fuel cells.....just my two cents but I think pistons & valves will be around for a long time to come yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    You can buy a Mazda hybrid today.
    Oh yeah, I forgot that the Tribute is just a rebadged Escape, and hence gets all the same powertrain options.

    One of my Aunts works a rural mail route and she is considering one to replace her current Escape. The Ford Escape, not the Tribute. The Mazda dealer network is a little slim in the rural South Bend area.

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    i cant wait to see this new makeover of mazda miata.. expect this to be as another best selling hits in the automotive industry..
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    In a recent trip to NYC, it looked to me like most of the Taxis were Escape hybrids.

    I was disappointed that I did not see any Checkers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cone-cerned View Post
    In a recent trip to NYC, it looked to me like most of the Taxis were Escape hybrids.
    IIRC, NYC Taxi laws call for a Taxi to be replaced after 5 years of service, and all new fleet additions must get 30mpg. The Escape Hybrid appears to be the only car out there that has space for a lot of luggage and gets 30mpg, so it is becoming the new standard for NYC Taxi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MX-5EE View Post
    One of my Aunts works a rural mail route and she is considering one to replace her current Escape. The Mazda dealer network is a little slim in the rural South Bend area.
    I love people that do not routinely drive in stop-and-go traffic, but will buy a hybrid and expect dramatically lower fuel consumption.

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