Autocross season scoring

[BMcCann]

Hey all, silly season discussion here...

I just participated in an AZ region event and they do their scoring different from the clubs in DFW. Instead of 9-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 points per event, they do a 1000 points for the winner and then the remaining competitors in class get points based on how close they were to that time.

For example:
first place - 40.000, second place - 40.500, third place - 41.800.
First place gets 1000 pts, second place gets 987 pts, third place gets 956 pts.

I think this system could provide more excitement overall throughout the course of the season One side effect is that it focuses more on consistency over winning.

Discuss!

[CosmosMpower]

As if autocross wasn't complicated enough....

[general default]

Do they score the best 7 of 10 events or something like that? There are a number of clubs that score things this way. Prosolo might have done it that way years ago.
I guess the catch is you could get penalized by a rain event more than the single point system. Since Texas had about 5 rain events this year it might not show realistic outcomes.

Cone killers would not like the high point system either.

It would be interesting to compare this years results against a prorated point system.

[BMcCann]

AZ doesn't run in from June-August (like we do from Dec-Feb). They actually split their series into Spring and Fall, best 3 scores out of 4 (plus an unscored special event...sometimes a road course, sometimes a night autocross, sometimes a Mirrorkhana)

That's something I may be able to whip up...after lots and lots of data crunching.

Cone killers probably wouldn't enjoy the point system. An extreme example would be that you win 6 events by .1 but place second in the final event after coning away all your runs and losing by +2 seconds. That would let 2nd place beat you. That's an extreme example though.


Edit: I whipped this up for X class from last year. (Let me know if its blocked) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

TL;DR - Notable jumps - Jones from 15th to 7th, Ledbetter 9th to 4th, Lucas 3rd to 6th, McCann 4th to 8th, Wortham 7th to 5th

When I get more time, I'll look at a closer class in results to see if there's more shift.

[Robert]

In PAX classes the guys on R-comps would be at a large disadvantage at wet events that would carry over for the entire year.

I think that is what General Default is also saying.

[OZMDD]

I like it, though I'm not sure the complexity will be easy for folks to figure out when casually examining results and where they stand/what they need to move up. I would prefer a scoring system that results in my beating Michael Parker.

[BatoLoco13]

STU was a close race between the top 4 last year. The results were / would have been:

Sam Graff 1st 46 / 1st 6,910
Nicholas Schnick 2nd 42 / 3rd 6,880
Brandon Slater 3rd 40 / 4th 6,861
Curtis Frisbie 4th 39 / 2nd 6,890

The AZ system does award consistency and counteracts the ringer factor. Scott ran in 2 races as STU and took the 9 points that hurt some people trying to catch up. As well as one race by Grant.

[BMcCann]

I wonder if ER or SCCA would consider changing their system. I know Andy and Brad are out there...What do you guys think?

[nomadtrash]

If the new system allows BatLoco13's spreadsheet to predict me to win nationals then I'm all for it.

[BatoLoco13]

Done! Now you just have to live up to my predictions!

[Steve E]

If the new system allows BatLoco13's spreadsheet to predict me to win nationals then I'm all for it.

Well you have to go to show.

[general default]

The timing program can do the points. But I don't think ER uses that part of the program. SCCA does use the built in points feature.
The ER's point system is a little different than other clubs.

[BatoLoco13]

The timing program can do the points. But I don't think ER uses that part of the program. SCCA does use the built in points feature.
The ER's point system is a little different than other clubs.

No Worries ... I can build a Spreadsheet

[nomadtrash]

Did BatLoco13 just volunteer to be the ER points administrator?

[BatoLoco13]

Did BatLoco13 just volunteer to be the ER points administrator?

Would love to be the points administrator. At least this way I won't spend half the afternoon after an event waiting for the times to be posted ...

[BMcCann]

Truthfully, it's not that difficult to set up. I did the whole thing in about 4 hours with comp runs + time onlys for the AZ region. Excel is magical like that.