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    Question WTB - Racing Harness

    Looking for recommendations for a racing (autocross) harness. What should I look for? Is 4-point what I want? Camlock worth the extra money? Any TCB options?

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    TCB? Bring some nylon rope. We'll tie you in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailchaser
    TCB? Bring some nylon rope. We'll tie you in.
    Wouldn't TCB be a roll of duct tape?
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    Go see Jean the Seatbelt Queen, I'm sure she has what you need!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave04
    Wouldn't TCB be a roll of duct tape?
    Too hard to clean off the nipples.





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    Did you get a roll bar?

    G-force seems to have some pretty inexpensive harnesses. But also check ebay for some good used TCB deals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miatamoto
    Did you get a roll bar?
    Yes I did. Hard Dog M2 Sport (no diagonals). Will Jean be my co-pilot? Maybe we could share the belt!

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    I think a camlock is worth the extra money. Ask lugnutjon about his non-camlock belts, and he'll probably agree.

    Definitely get a sub-belt (5/6-point harness) if you plan to do track days with the car. A 4-point belt can ride up in an impact, allowing you to submarine under the belts and fold yourself up in the footwell. Not pretty. The sub belt doesn't actually interfere with "the boys", nor should you encounter it in an impact - it merely prevents the lap belt from riding up, allowing it to stay in place and absorb your forward momentum across your hips.

    I'm also a big fan of 3" belts versus 2" belts. In an impact - or even in high G manuvers, for that matter - what you'll actually feel is the pressure of the belts, which is a function of your mass times acceleration distributed over (divided by) the contact area of the belts. More belt area (3" wide versus 2" wide) means less pressure for the same amount of force.

    Non-technical summary of the preceding paragraph: Wider belts are more comfortable when driving, so go with the widest belts you can find, Typically 3" belts.

    When it comes to manufacturers, I like Sparco, because you can buy their belts piecemeal - you can buy the lap belts, shoulder belts, and sub belts separately, which gives you more options and flexibility. I also like TeamTech - some of the most comfortable harnesses I've ever used - but they're pricey.

    One last suggestion - avoid a "Y-style" shoulder belt. You want either separate shoulder belts, or an "H-style" belt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miatamoto
    also check ebay for some good used TCB deals.
    Just make sure the ones you are bidding on are not expired, or about to expire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammm
    Yes I did. Hard Dog M2 Sport (no diagonals)
    Installed yet? Pics?
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    I got a great TCB deal on my belt because they were expired.

    Unless you're running SPEC (or the like) where dated belts are mandatory, I wouldn't worry about it. Just be sure to check the integrity of the belt's webbing and hardware. Of course, this is just my opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
    I got a great TCB deal on my belt because they were expired.

    Unless you're running SPEC (or the like) where dated belts are mandatory, I wouldn't worry about it. Just be sure to check the integrity of the belt's webbing and hardware. Of course, this is just my opinion...
    I have had the belts in my car looked at for an SCCA Autocross Tech. YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolberry
    Installed yet? Pics?
    Yes. Yes.



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    ^^ Looks great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by POS Racing
    I have had the belts in my car looked at for an SCCA Autocross Tech. YMMV
    Me too, the guy looked and said "Oh yeah this is autoX the dates dont matter."

    I have used belts that have expired, but I am tired of the noncamlock belts. I have heard of Bobby Archers in FT Worth selling used belts from race cars for cheap when they expire.

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    Thanks for the replies guys. I'm now looking for a camlock, 5 pt., 3" wide harness. I know it will 'clip' into the harness tab on the rollbar, but what about the lap and anti-sub belts? How will those be attached?

    I'm going to call Bobby Archers and see what they have.

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    I bought my belt at Bobby Archers. It was a new belt that had just never sold and had already past its expiration date. I picked it up relatively cheap.

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    I forgot to add... it's a RPM 5pt. harness with 3 inch wide belts.

    The anti-sub goes through my floorboard. For you sammmy, I might suggest a 6 pt belt so that you don't have to make holes in your floorboard.

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    Archers also sells the eye bolts. The threads are universal for harness and seatbelt stuff. I drilled a hole in the floorboard for my 5th point, and also for the right side of the harness. I just replaced the bolt for the stock seatbelt with an eyebolt on the left side. That way I can clip and unclip everything. Archers sells the bolts, and it comes with the backing plate too. Since the seat belt attatches to the seat on the 99, you have to drill into the side of the tranny tunnel.

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    Anyone else in the market for a harness? We could split this for $52 each.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-New...95230708QQrdZ1

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