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    Before I get to the good stuff, here is a little info about how all this began.
    Unknow to me, several years
    ago, Shelley decided she wanted to give me a gift to do something racing related
    that I had never done, or
    that I would never do myself. She tells me now, that she researched all the
    racing schools around the
    country, talked to each of them, and decided that Skip Barber was the one, for
    several reasons. First,
    she didn't want a beginners school, since I already have been racing for ten
    years. Second, she wanted
    me to drive something "different" (in other words, not a Miata!), and third, she
    wanted it to be on a track
    that I have never raced on.

    Skip Barber certainly was the right choice. I don't think she could have done
    any better! They have
    several schools, from a three-day beginner's event that starts out with the
    basics, autocrossing in
    Neons, then to the track with individual instructors in the same cars, then
    finally up to their open-wheel
    school cars that are not much more than a go-cart on steroids. The second
    racing school, the one that I
    just completed, is a two-day advanced class. There are also some defensive
    driving courses, using pickup
    trucks and SRT Neons, and high-performance driving using those same Neons and
    SRT Vipers. Both of
    these schools only use autocross-type courses and wet tracks. Another "plus" to
    Skip barber is that
    they have schools all over the country, and I could choose where I wanted to go.
    That was an easy
    decision since Laguna Seca was on the list.

    Lucky for me, the advanced school started slow, with classroom reviews of the
    basics, a braking and
    down-shifting exercise, on to no-passing sessions, race starts, then full
    open-track sessions. It may
    sound a bit basic until you consider the car, a REAL open-wheel race car: 150HP
    2-liter, 5-speed
    sequential shifter, 1250#, and spoilers and wings. Compare these small
    differnces to a Miata: cockpit
    that you "put on" as opposed to "getting in", reclining at about one hundred and
    fifty degrees, twelve inch
    steering wheel with lock-to-lock less than one rotation, no fenders, no
    windshield, and non-assisted
    brakes. Braking requires two hundred pounds of force and hauls that puppy down
    at well over 1G, and did
    I mention that there is no indcation as to what gear you are in, or a
    speedometer?

    We had twenty students and about a dozen excellent instructors, that coached us
    all thru the school. I
    don't believe you will find more qualified instructors anywhere, as they are all
    professional racers.
    Students had a wide range of experience and ability, from a fifteen year old
    from Mexico who has been
    racing go-karts since he was five, to a sixty+ year old doctor that has never
    raced, and everything in-
    between. Having never had driven an open-wheel car before (except for at Malibu
    Grand Prix!), nor been
    on the track at Laguna Seca, I felt like a combination of both extremes, fifteen
    and no experience!

    Prior to leaving Texas, I had prepared myself, or so I thought, for Laguna Seca
    by reading several hot lap
    descriptions in both the Barber "school cars" and Porshes, studying pictures and
    video of the track, and
    memorizing the corners. None of this prepared me for the CORKSCREW!!!!!! Our
    first familiarization of
    the track came in a Neon, with an instuctor driving and showing us the line. No
    problem, I thought, until
    we topped the hill past turn seven, braked HARD, turned left, and the world
    disappared beneath us.
    "OH....MY...GOD!" escaped my lips as "HOLLY SH..." came from Bob's!
    Seventy-three foot drop from turn-
    in to eight, to track-out of ten! "...and I've got to do this" in an unfamiliar
    race car with half the weight
    and fifty percent more power than a Miata!

    As it turned out, the corkscrew is not really so bad once you have faith that
    everything is still going to be
    in the same place the next time you make that long climb up from turn five to
    the top, but I'm getting
    ahead of myself...... We were split into two groups, with one on the track and
    the other following
    instructors from corner to corner. Being the second group was invaluable, as
    the on-going critique of the
    drivers of group one certainly made me more prepared for my sessions, but it
    still took a long time to
    get up to speed and feel comfortable both with the car and the track. I had
    four basic problems
    throughout the school. Two were due to the way you have to drive a Miata and
    the rest with the car. The
    steering was so quick, that I would turn in too quickly and too abruptly, my
    most heard critique. I had to
    be very conscious to slow my hands down. These cars accelerate from 0 to 120,
    even going up hills, so
    the "maintain momentum" necessary in a Miata is not nearly so important, which
    changed the way I'm
    used to braking. The proper way in these cars is to go in VERY fast and deep,
    BRAKE as hard as possible,
    then trail off of them. I tend to ease into the brakes early, in the Miata,
    then max power quickly, before
    the apex. The cornering speed and the power-to-weight ratio of these cars don't
    like that one bit....I saw
    lots of opposite lock! The great thing about these cars is that they
    communicate so well, that is really
    easy to catch these mistakes easily and quickly.

    The car issues really surprised me. Did I mention that there was no way to tell
    what gear I was in? There
    are fourteen shifts in these cars at Laguna Seca, several of them two or three
    gears in very quick
    succession. Unlike the gated shifter of a Miata, the shifter always "centers"
    after a shift with the
    sequential transmission. Also the gear ratios are very tight, so it's easy to
    be off one and not be able to
    tell by the RPM (assuming that you can SEE the tach!) I tried to "remember"
    which gear I was in, but
    there was so much going on that I would forget. I finally listened to my
    instructors and started counting
    shifts for each corner; down three for turn two, up one for turn three, up one
    for turn four, down one
    for turn five.... That worked and from that point (noon on day two) I had
    conquered that problem. The
    other isssue with the car was heel-n-toe downshifting. The pedals were so close
    together and the foot
    box so small, that, under hard braking, I would also apply the throttle. Not a
    blip, just continuous power.
    When that didn't happen, I couldn't rotate my foot enough to get a good blip. I
    never did get my feet to
    work correctly.

    I had expected a steep learning curve, but not as steep as it turned out to be.
    I never really got
    comfortable with both the car and track until noon on day two, so I was a bit
    bummed 'till then. BUT, it
    was all worth it for those last three sessions! I got my shifts figured out,
    good deep braking points, tight
    apexes, and finally started passing other cars. The instuctors were happy, I
    was happy, and I was able to
    run with some of the younger kids. There were never any lap times taken, but it
    didn't matter. I got
    braver; braking later, holding full throttle longer, rolling on the power
    sooner, and being smoother. I have
    no idea how fast those cars are, but being that low to the ground and having the
    front tires in your face,
    it felt twice as fast as a Miata!

    As for the track, it is awesome: Off camber turns, on camber turns, blind
    turns, first gear turns, fifth
    gear turns, hills, lots of gravel traps, and 2.24 miles of smooth asphalt. I
    would love to run it in a Miata
    some day. See next post for a hot lap in the RT2000
    92 Sunny 214k, 95 Dimples, 93 James Bondo, 92 SM (Speedie Jr )
    Shelley, Apex, Tigger, Max, Baby(cats), Fluffy, Spot, and Peanut (mini horses), Cinnamon & Bitsy(dawgs)
    MSR #1001, SCCA #208822 Let's go racin'

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    What a gift! It sounds like you had one hell of a time out there.

    Laguna Seca is one of the tracks on my "must drive before I die" list.
    Iain

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    Living vicariously through Merv! Fun stuff, great write up.
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    Great wife and congratulations on Skip Barber. Thanks for the write up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by altiain
    Laguna Seca is one of the tracks on my "must drive before I die" list.
    I've driven past it. Does that count?

    Congrats Merv. We are all incredibly jealous now.

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    What an exciting trip! I'm jealous!
    ...and across the line.

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    Great write-up Merv. Sounds like you had a very good time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMerv View Post
    None of this prepared me for the CORKSCREW!!!!!!


    Sounds like a fun trip....
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    Hey! I did pretty good, didn't I? Wish I was going with those guys
    92 Sunny 214k, 95 Dimples, 93 James Bondo, 92 SM (Speedie Jr )
    Shelley, Apex, Tigger, Max, Baby(cats), Fluffy, Spot, and Peanut (mini horses), Cinnamon & Bitsy(dawgs)
    MSR #1001, SCCA #208822 Let's go racin'

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    Is Shelley looking to adopt?
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    I'm doing the Mazdaspeed 3 day race school at Laguna, this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwag View Post
    i'm doing the mazdaspeed 3 day race school at laguna, this weekend.
    you suck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    you suck!
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwag View Post
    I'm doing the Mazdaspeed 3 day race school at Laguna, this weekend.
    I'm jealous!!!!!!!
    92 Sunny 214k, 95 Dimples, 93 James Bondo, 92 SM (Speedie Jr )
    Shelley, Apex, Tigger, Max, Baby(cats), Fluffy, Spot, and Peanut (mini horses), Cinnamon & Bitsy(dawgs)
    MSR #1001, SCCA #208822 Let's go racin'

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