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    Default Changing complete brake system on white, which fluid to use?

    I've bought all new brake components and have read the dot 5 is not good to use. But dot 5.1 is ok. Am I reading this correctly? Or should I just stick with plain ol dot 4?

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    Hmm what is decent? Are we talking about your decent or my decent? I'm just curious because I don't want to offend anyone else's decent...

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    Valvoline Synthetic...pick it up at Vatozone.

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    Unless you're at the track every day, DOT 4 should be just fine and then some. Just remember that once you go to DOT 4, you need to stick with DOT 4 or better - don't go adding DOT 3 to DOT 4 (at least that's what I've always been told).

    And +1 what sammm said about the Valvoline Synthetic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sammm View Post
    Valvoline Synthetic...pick it up at Vatozone.
    +1 Good Stuff!


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    Quote Originally Posted by POS Racing View Post
    +1 Good Stuff!


    I guess that's it! Now all that I have to do is some wrenching
    Hmm what is decent? Are we talking about your decent or my decent? I'm just curious because I don't want to offend anyone else's decent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by POS Racing View Post
    +1 Good Stuff!

    Hey what a surprise that is what is in my car too!

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    Same here. In fact, this is my 3rd car to get this fluid.

    Magma is also running this in his MSM.
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    Ok, I'm a snob I guess.... I use Motul RBF 600. The higher boiling pressure is nice, but the resistance to moisture is what I like best.

    Just so you dont think I throw money away, I don't pay any where near retail for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrxmr2eater View Post
    Ok, I'm a snob I guess.... I use Motul RBF 600. The higher boiling pressure is nice, but the resistance to moisture is what I like best.

    Just so you dont think I throw money away, I don't pay any where near retail for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrxmr2eater View Post
    Ok, I'm a snob I guess.... I use Motul RBF 600. The higher boiling pressure is nice, but the resistance to moisture is what I like best.

    Just so you dont think I throw money away, I don't pay any where near retail for it.
    Erm... Motul RBF600 is actually a lot more hygroscopic than most other brake fluids out there. In other words, it absorbs water at a much faster rate than something like Valvoline Synthetic.

    Motul does have a higher dry boiling temp than Valvoline, but that great dry boiling point is useless if you're leaving it in the car for more than six months between flushes.

    FWIW, I use Valvoline Synthetic on my cars for daily driving and autocross use, but I'll flush the system with Motul for track days.

    Oh, and real brake fluid snobs use Castrol SRF.
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    you cannot mix dot 5 with anything but dot 5 because it is more silicon based. you can interchange 3 and 4, but if youve got 4 in there you might as well keep 4 because of the boiling temp.
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    The only think I could keep from eating all of the seals out in my old FIAT was Castrol LMA which is a Dot 4 brake fluid. Haven't tried Valvoline, but will definitely will give it a try, now with the overwhelming recomendation of the group here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by altiain View Post
    Erm... Motul RBF600 is actually a lot more hygroscopic than most other brake fluids out there. In other words, it absorbs water at a much faster rate than something like Valvoline Synthetic.

    Motul does have a higher dry boiling temp than Valvoline, but that great dry boiling point is useless if you're leaving it in the car for more than six months between flushes.

    FWIW, I use Valvoline Synthetic on my cars for daily driving and autocross use, but I'll flush the system with Motul for track days.

    Oh, and real brake fluid snobs use Castrol SRF.
    Hmm...interesting info, thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by altiain View Post
    Erm... Motul RBF600 is actually a lot more hygroscopic than most other brake fluids out there. In other words, it absorbs water at a much faster rate than something like Valvoline Synthetic.

    Oh, and real brake fluid snobs use Castrol SRF.
    Sorry, I was meaning the resistance to moisture as in moisture beading in the lines. It does absorb, but I am flushing brake fluid at the most every 3 months - usually sooner.

    SRF is fabled, but that is Macallan scotch pricing, but Wilwood EXP 600 Plus is intriguing.

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    dot 5 supposedly does not absorb water. and it doesnt disolve paint!

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    Go ahead and use some Skydrol.

    It's purty Purple and full synthetic. JK
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    I use Motorcraft High Performance DOT 3. Great stuff for the price, $4.20 for 12 fl. oz. at any Ford dealer, 550F dry and 288F wet boiling points. Not bad when it's changed as often as we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    dot 5 supposedly does not absorb water. and it doesnt disolve paint!
    It is also a highly compressible fluid, which equates to a very squishy brake pedal. Dot5 fluid should be completely avoided on all tracked or autocrossed cars, imho.
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