Wide Band bung install

[jeepinbanditrider]

Looking for a decent place to install my Wide Band O2 sensor bung. Any suggestions in the North West Fort Worth area.

[Rob®]

Stainless?

[Titus]

I took mine to a chain muffler shop. Picked it up an hour later. They didn't even want to charge me, but I slipped the guy who welded it a 20 on my way out.

[jeepinbanditrider]

stock except for a Borla.

[Rob®]

Where are you welding the bung? Is that pipe stainless? Is the bung stainless? If so, I agree with Titus - take it to a local shop and they should do it no problem for cheap.

I can't weld stainless at the house right now, so I'm no help if it's all that (pretty sure the Borla is).

[jeepinbanditrider]

I was going to have it welded as close to the head pipes as possible. The whole exhaust system is stock except for the muffler which is a Borla. I'll hit up my exhaust guy on the west side of Weatherford and have him drop it in.

[Davidss]

Do you have a stock header?

Take a magnet and stick it to the bung. If it is not magnetic then it's stainless.
Then stick the magnet to the exhaust where you want the bung. Again not magnetic then not stainless.

Whether or not you are welding stainless or not affects how hard this is to do.

[SirHustlerEsq]

I was going to have it welded as close to the head pipes as possible. The whole exhaust system is stock except for the muffler which is a Borla. I'll hit up my exhaust guy on the west side of Weatherford and have him drop it in.

What kind of wideband do you have?

Do not weld it close to the engine, you want it it welded at the end of the header.

[jeepinbanditrider]

http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/Tinte...uel-Gauge.aspx

I'll have him put it towards the end of the header.

[SirHustlerEsq]

Are you retarded? Instead of that Chinese shit you could have:
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/i...844-p-467.html

With the two outputs on the MTX-L you will probably save money since you won't need another bung welded in.

[jeepinbanditrider]

Are you retarded?

I didn't stay in a holiday inn last night but no I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded. However you may have just been classified as an asshole in my book. It's called tact. I don't mind being told I made a bad purchase however for someone to just come out an call me retarded is a bit of a dick move.

[SirHustlerEsq]

Sorry, but you're the guy who paid $200 for a Chinese wideband with one output.

[jeepinbanditrider]

That somehow makes me a "retard"? I'm not 100 percent familar with wideband gauges. I did know that regular air/fuel gauge wasn't any good and that you want a wideband. So I bought a wideband, don't really see that as a need to come in here and be a dick. But to each their own.

[Rob®]

My question is what you plan on doing with the readings you get? What if it says you're completely off from where you need to be? You have no means to adjust it...? if it says you're dangerously lean, will you just stop driving the car until you get an adjustable ECU of some sort? Or will you shrug it off saying to yourself, "it has been running fine so far." Serious question too, not trying to be an ass.

[jeepinbanditrider]

I'll make my cheap ass come up off some money for a MSPnP lol.

[Rob®]

Fair enough. Was curious if you had a game plan or not.

[jeepinbanditrider]

Why do I need more than one output anyway? How many devices do I need to hook up to besides the gauge and computer??

[SirHustlerEsq]

I can't quote for some reason at work, so here it goes:

With two outputs, you can run one sensor and get a "dumb" NB signal to the computer and get a real WB signal to a gauge or whatever you want; both outputs are programmable to send any range you want. The MTX-L I posted actually has 3 outputs, one for the gauge which houses the controller, then two more outputs for whatever you want.

[Rob®]

Not to defend his purchase (I agree it was a bad/unresearched choice, but I'm not getting into that), but the one he linked says it has the options to log WB output and send a NB output as well. I would *hope* the optional logable WB output is not a "you either get the gauge display or output to the ECU" type of thing, but I know it's entirely possible.

At the moment he can only use two outputs anyway: the WB gauge display and the NB signal to the stock ECU if he wants. I suppose he might have whatever device to get the output sent to his phone, but I'd be shocked if he knew that existed and didn't do more thorough research as to what WB setup to buy in the first place.

[SirHustlerEsq]

I'll also add that the Innovate wideband stuffs are the fastest and most accurate according to those in the know. It gives you more information than the competitors, you can program whatever ranges you want, you can adjust those ranges when calibrating with MAP-gas (but you don't need to), and you can easily tell when a sensor goes bad. You can also run leaded fuel with the MTX-L, which is cool for us weekend racers. It does everything better and the only pain is running the ground wires correctly.