Where to get turbo in dallas / ft worth?

[rrk0818]

Hey guys, to the the site, get place! I just bought an 02 miata and want to have a turbo installed where is a good shop to have this done? I am going to use it as a daily driver but also play. Any input would be appreciated... was considering flyingmiata but would like to keep it local if possible.

[black roadster]

Keeping it local with a Miata Specialist would require you to consider a supercharger.

Track Dog Racing

[rrk0818]

only s.c. being done around town? like the idea of a turbo.... think its more reliable have one on my harley....love it

[randy7601]

Hey guys, to the the site, get place!

And uh, welcome to the forum!

[black roadster]

Talk to a few of the S/C owners on the forum. They all seem very happy.

Titus and Miataspeedracer may chime in.

[rrk0818]

thanks for the info, since I want to stay with the turbo- who would you use? looking for feed back good or bad...

[rrk0818]

thanks!

[Titus]

If you want to try a supercharged car, PM me. If you are set on turbo, you can't go wrong with FM. If you want someone a little closer, you could head south for BEGI.

[rrk0818]

im sure they are, just a preference. s.c. are fun too. have had good luck with the turbos, lots of miles with no problems (knock on wood) since this will be a daily driver thats important for me.

[rrk0818]

thanks! have you comapred the two? i have heard alot about flyinmiata...but not known anyone who had their equipt. nice guys though

[Titus]

thanks! have you comapred the two? i have heard alot about flyinmiata...but not known anyone who had their equipt. nice guys though

A short Miata turbo history lesson.

• BEGI built a turbo miata kit, but didn't like sales.
• FM was good at sales, and liked BEGI's kits, so a marriage was made.
• FM spent many years selling FM branded BEGI turbos with electronics added by FM.
• FM wanted BEGI to make improvements, BEGI was not too interested.
• FM and BEGI split up.
• FM designed a new, better system on their own and began selling it.
• BEGI got into sales and went head to head with FM.
• BEGI made many improvements to the old kit that they sold via FM so they could compete with FM's new kit, but their electronics are still inferior.

I may have a few little things off. If so, perhaps Sharpie can refine it for me.

[Sharpie]

Begi and FM are similar. I'm an FM guy, I trust their support and willingness help you build your system to fit your needs. My dad has 3 FM cars, one has over 130k miles on the turbo and 100k on the car. He bought Bill's original turbo that he started with in 89'.

The main thing you'll need to consider is engine management. There are several out there. The piggyback link is nice, because you can still get inspected every year and not have to worry about OBDII stuff. The hydra stand alone is FM's newish ECU. Figure out your needs and go from there.

FM and Begi have basic starter kits available without intercoolers, engine mngt. etc. with low boost.

As for local, I don't know where to send you. For the SC I'd go to trackdog.

[johnwag]

Just take it to BEGi.

[rrk0818]

thanks! was aware of the the relationship there. if you go with the hydra are there problems with inspections?

[Sharpie]

I don't believe the Hydra will talk to OBDII, you will have to put it on the treadmill/dyno and do a tailpipe sniffer for inspections. The Hydra can get you more control than a piggyback. Bill and Jeremy at FM really like it. I know there are several other engine management systems out there. My dad has the piggyback link on his 03' but wants to upgrade to the Hydra. There is a 99' piggyback on m.n for $300, but I'm not sure that it would work on an 02' due to VVT.

[TurboDuane]

Hey, if you want Turbo, then by all means go Turbo, don't listen to all the ScrewBalls around here (pun intented). I've got a '97 FM2 Turbo, and it's my 2nd Turbo'd Miata from FM, both were BEGI designs. I've got the Link ECU, but you will definately need something like the Hydra, that can take advantage of the VVT.

If you aren't interested in putting the kit together yourself, then you may want to talk with ATS Racing in Denton. They have a lot of Turbo experiance, mostly with Honda's but they have Miata experiance as well. They may be willing to install an FM kit for you.

Personally, I'm not fond of FM's current kit, as is uses a lot of Rubber tubing, instead of pipes. I also think that Track Dog has the best innercooler on the market, it looks really good! But I'm not sure it's compatable with the new FM kit.

All that said, when my '08's warranty expires in 58,000 miles, I'll probably change gears and go with a Screw myself, as I'm sure it will be better for Auto-crossing, of which I hope to get back into next year. The lag, followed by a super rush of power has been a challenge to work with around corners.

If you want a ride in a turbo Miata, just give me a holler, I'm in Mansfield.

[rrk0818]

thanks! yes I woulf like to take a ride... Im right of 360 just north of 183 so not far at all.

[MiataMike]

The Hydra Will not pass State Inspection unless you live outside of the City where emissions tests aren't required :-D

I have a FMII Turbo setup with the Hydra EMS installed and Tuned by Steve Kahn at Gotham Racing in NW Ft. Worth. Steve is the only certified Hydra installer in the State of Texas and claims to have over 400 Hydra installs/tunes. Cost of the install got a little pricey though it took a couple extra hours to pull out all of the old Link equipment. Total cost was about $1500 for install and tune + the cost of the Hydra w/ WB02.

http://www.gothamracing.com/Script/index.php?option=com_contact&catid=4&Itemid=3

I need to get mine retuned after replacing my downpipe (the old one broke in half) But I can give you a ride if your around.

[VFR750]

A short Miata turbo history lesson.

• BEGI built a turbo miata kit, but didn't like sales.
• FM was good at sales, and liked BEGI's kits, so a marriage was made.
• FM spent many years selling FM branded BEGI turbos with electronics added by FM.
• FM wanted BEGI to make improvements, BEGI was not too interested.
• FM and BEGI split up.
• FM designed a new, better system on their own and began selling it.
• BEGI got into sales and went head to head with FM.
• BEGI made many improvements to the old kit that they sold via FM so they could compete with FM's new kit, but their electronics are still inferior.

I may have a few little things off. If so, perhaps Sharpie can refine it for me.

You are pretty close..........I can tell you after working for Corky for six years one the biggest problems with him was wanting to change the turbo kits up before we had hardly sold enough to pay the development costs. FM thought they could do it better for cheaper so they split the sheets with BEGi. Corky is an mechanical engineer (A&M), sales and marketing were a necessary evil to him. He can put you to sleep explaining the hows and whys of X and Y.......

[Sharpie]

The Hydra Will not pass State Inspection unless you live outside of the City where emissions tests aren't required :-D

I have a FMII Turbo setup with the Hydra EMS installed and Tuned by Steve Kahn at Gotham Racing in NW Ft. Worth. Steve is the only certified Hydra installer in the State of Texas and claims to have over 400 Hydra installs/tunes. Cost of the install got a little pricey though it took a couple extra hours to pull out all of the old Link equipment. Total cost was about $1500 for install and tune + the cost of the Hydra w/ WB02.

http://www.gothamracing.com/Script/index.php?option=com_contact&catid=4&Itemid=3

I need to get mine retuned after replacing my downpipe (the old one broke in half) But I can give you a ride if your around.

That's good to know. I wasn't sure what they could/would do. Sounds like a pain. There's got to be a better solution to emissions legal ECU's for OBDII cars....???