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    I noticed the other day when driving my car that the air conditioner was not blowing cold. I finally took a look at it today. When I enable the AC, the engine idle increases, but the blue AC light does not come on. Looking under the hood, then compressor does not spin.

    I recently added an under-drive pulley, but I do not know if that had anything to do with this. I do not remember when I last used my AC before the new pulley. I do not know if the AC worked after the pulley or not, since I never checked to see if it spun when I turned it on after installing the pulley.

    I saw another thread where Titus suggested that low freon will cause this. Since I have one of the old AC systems, I do not think replacing the freon is an option without a conversion, which is $$$.

    Any other things I can check before moving to expensive fixes?

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    Conversion costs about $30.

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    How about pulling out the Factory Manual and go thought the trouble shooting steps on the A/C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    Conversion costs about $30.
    I thought a new compre$$or was required.

    Quote Originally Posted by POS Racing View Post
    How about ulling out the Factory Manual and go thought the trouble shooting steps on the A/C.
    Darn it, I keep forgetting about that resource. I will take a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrj512 View Post
    I thought a new compre$$or was required.



    Darn it, I keep forgetting about that resource. I will take a look.
    I bought a conversion kit that came with adapter fittings, a can of oil, 2 cans of freon, and a filler thingy. My condenser had a hole in it at the time, so there was no freon in it. To do it correctly, you should have a shop pull the old stuff out, but disconnecting the condenser fittings will vent the old freon to atmosphere. I also picked up a $5 pack of o-rings and replaced all that I could easily get to. You are supposed to use a vacuum to remove all air from the system before re-filling. I ordered the vacuum, but got impatient waiting for it and filled it as is. Worked fine.

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    Since the blue light isn't coming on, did you check your fuses? There may be a relay/fuse under the hood too, but I'm not sure.

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    Jump the plug on the pressure switch, to see if that is the culprit.
    Getting "caught" venting R-12 into the atmosphere can cost you 10k+.
    You need a vacuum pulled on the system, and make sure its holding.
    You must use gauges on R-134, its picky, and it takes less 134 vs 12.

    Or you could just add some R-12, I have seen cans for $20 on CL this week.

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    In my case, blue light was coming on but not blowing cold. If you need to top off R-12, I suggest Fifth Gear Automotive on 407 in Lewisville. Owner charged $35 for a 1/2 lb and some time for labor. Less than $100 out the door and not a problem since.
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    Well, using the Factory Manual and learning how to use my voltmeter, it seems that it is either the refrigerant pressure or the refrigerant pressure switch.

    I do not have the gauges to check the refrigerant pressure. So, I can either find some gauges or I can just replace the switch ($38 at Rock Auto -- I can check with Mazdaspeed tomorrow).

    Rogue, would you have a pressure gauge that I can hire you to use or do you have a cheap switch that I can buy?

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    Paging Titus...

    He got the whole under-dash AC setup from my spec when it was yanked.
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    Got gauges and the r12 adaptors!
    Last edited by cam76034; 02-18-2009 at 11:04 AM.

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    I say pull the AC
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    Quote Originally Posted by cam76034 View Post
    Got gauges and the r12 adaptors
    Is this a statement or question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cam76034 View Post
    Got gauges and the r12 adaptors
    PM sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cone-cerned View Post
    Is this a statement or question?
    Now it's a statement.
    Got gauges and the r12 adaptors!

    Did you jumper the pressure switch? Or run a jumper directly to the compressor? Gauges wont' tell you much if the compressor isn't kicking in.

    If you jumper the compressor and it comes on, take a look at your sight glass and see if you see bubbles flowing through.

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    She's all fixed up. It was a pretty good leak, after all. I guess I must have put a little pressure on the line or something when I was installing the new pulley or even the new header and I caused a leak. It was fixed with a $.20 o-ring. Thanks to Lost216 and POS Racing for helping.

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