Some places are actually making it illegal to videotape police officers.Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
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Some places are actually making it illegal to videotape police officers.Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
Ding Ding Ding we have winner folks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel
Where do you draw the line folks? When they are booting in your front door with no warrant because they got an "anonymous tip" that you were hiding drugs :) It happens more often than most people think it does (with a warrant even).
I too have been a victim of police fascism. Its no joke the police are out of control and are power hungry above the law attitudes have got to stop. If you can arrest, prosecute, or judge someone you should be held by a higher standard and face even greater penalties for your actions. But instead it is the exact opposite they generally get off with as little as a slap on the wrist, unless someone does have video.
If someone was walking down the street with a gun and shooting at people as they went, would you be alright if the police had to use deadly force to stop him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel
The person running on the bike endangered others doing that chase, so they should be allowed to use deadly force to stop him. The fact they let him live and merely beat him into compliance should be considered perfectly acceptable for all parties involved. Me, personally...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yoUaH6wGLs
it should have ended that way!
In this case, the drug dealer would have to be caught in the act of selling drugs, then be seen running into the house, with the police in pursuit. But you are saying that despite this, they should not be allowed to enter the house to apprehend the suspect and look for drugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepinbanditrider
This is not police abusing their power, it's the police responding to the actions of the perp. The guy was fleeing police on a stolen bike, and demonstrating blatant disregard for law enforcement. Were they supposed to walk over there and ask him to please put his hands behind his back? Did you watch the end...he was still struggling when they were trying to handcuff him. He was still trying to get away when the cop rammed his bike.
Next time someone is breaking into someone's house, and they call the police, I hope the cops refuse to attempt to apprehend the suspect cause it would be oppressing the criminal's rights, and it might require that they use physical force (and even unauthorized baton strikes) to subdue the perp.
The cops should get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to this, cause its hard for them to do their job when there are pro-criminal citizens out there critiquing their initial response to criminal actions. It should be as easy as the cop saying, "I decided to spare his life, so we only thumped his head a few times for being a dumbass."
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Originally Posted by ray_sir_6
If someone were walking down the street shooting at people the police would be within their rights, and the law, to protect the people. In the case of this chase they were not only breaking the law (Dallas has a do not chase ordinance) but they also obeyed a direct order to break off the pursuit.
As much as you may not like it, they broke the law.
A guy on a bike is only endangering his own life, really. I don't like the idea of people getting away with crime, but the police were WAY out of line here. Ruins it for all the good ones. If a cop had to move the camera, that tells you they knew they were wrong.
On the other hand, if you'd like to live in a weak police situation, just bounce on down to old Mexico. Seems to be working out great there, eh?
Police have been serving a lot of no knock warrants lately on either the wrong address or based on the info of one criminal giving them information.......the wrong information it turns out big surprise there the bad guys lied. They don't properly recon the situation and innocent people get their houses broken into and held at gunpoint by the police. Or the police get into a firefight with people who are defending their homes against what they think are aggressors.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray_sir_6
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ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Three former Atlanta police officers are to be sentenced Monday for their roles in the shooting death of a 92-year-old woman during a botched drug raid in 2006, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office.
The officers -- Jason R. Smith, Gregg Junnier and Arthur B. Tesler -- pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights arising from the death of Kathryn Johnston at her home.
Johnston was killed November 21, 2006, as the defendants and other police officers executed a "no-knock" search warrant that was found to be based on false information that illegal drugs were in the home.
Police initially said that Kathryn Johnston fired at them with an old pistol, and they shot back in self-defense.
Junnier, Smith and Officer Cary Bond, who was not charged in the shooting, sustained gunshot wounds in the incident. Tesler was not wounded.
An Atlanta Police Department spokesman an informant named "Sam" said he had bought illegal drugs at Johnston's home, west of downtown Atlanta.
Their story began to fall apart after the informant said he had never been to the home.
Neighbors and relatives said the raid had to have been a mistake. Johnston lived alone and was so afraid of crime in the Atlanta neighborhood that she wouldn't let neighbors who delivered groceries for her come in, they said.
The sentencing hearing is scheduled for Monday at 10 a.m. before Chief U.S. District Judge Julie Carnes, attorney's office spokesman Patrick Crosby said in a statement. He said the hearing could last two days.
I support police for the most part both of my parents have been law enforcement and I have lots of friends and family that are part of that blue line but I will not trade my freedoms for what they are calling security.
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.