1995 M Edition Miata for sale.

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Originally Posted by TexasStig

JoJo is prettier.


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Originally Posted by Nails

They need more instructors for the five star ford event at ECR on the 17th. Maybe you could get a hall pass?

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It’s not a matter of hall passes, it’s a matter of economics. I’m a firm believer that if you can’t afford to wad it up and walk away from it, you shouldn’t take it to the track. Right now it would be financially uncomfortable to wad the S2k up and walk away from it, so until that situation changes I am not going to track it.

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Originally Posted by altiain

If you think the S2k has no soul, then you've never really wound one out on a track or back road. Typically I hear this comment from NA Miata owners defending their cars "character" - i.e., why it has the stopping distance of a fully loaded semi, a chassis like a wet noodle, and all the power of an MG with bad carbs. ;)

Seriously though, Miatas and S2000s are both fantastic cars. The S2000 is a more clinical, digital approach to the classic lightweight roadster than a Miata, and this turns some people off. But make no mistake, it is still a car for people who are passionate about driving.

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That's my point Iain. The Stook is a more clinical and digital approach. (Typical Honda) I'm sure it a fine car, handles well and everything but it's that approach to perfection that makes it lose it's soul or character. I agree, the Miata, specifically the NA has imperfections but it's those imperfections that give it character. It's kind of like the British car guys with their cars that have TONS of character. The original recipe Miata (read NA) was about a simple light weight RWD convertible sports car. It was inspired by the even more simple European roadsters from the 50s-70s. Mazda took the old roadster spirit and added Japanese reliability with a real easy to use top that didn't leak and electronics that didn't catch fire. This recipe was an absolute success.

I contend the Miata over the years has lost a bit of that character as it has become more refined. Still a fun car but the simplicity is gone.

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Originally Posted by black roadster

That's my point Iain. The Stook is a more clinical and digital approach. (Typical Honda) I'm sure it a fine car, handles well and everything but it's that approach to perfection that makes it lose it's soul or character. I agree, the Miata, specifically the NA has imperfections but it's those imperfections that give it character. It's kind of like the British car guys with their cars that have TONS of character. The original recipe Miata (read NA) was about a simple light weight RWD convertible sports car. It was inspired by the even more simple European roadsters from the 50s-70s. Mazda took the old roadster spirit and added Japanese reliability with a real easy to use top that didn't leak and electronics that didn't catch fire. This recipe was an absolute success.

I contend the Miata over the years has lost a bit of that character as it has become more refined. Still a fun car but the simplicity is gone.

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Blah, blah, blah, you sound like a bad mazda brochure. The simplicity is still there; its just that the NC simply kicks your cars' ass all over the track! :burnrubr:

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Originally Posted by OZMDD

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Quit passively hitting on me creeper!

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Originally Posted by black roadster

I contend the Miata over the years has lost a bit of that character as it has become more refined. Still a fun car but the simplicity is gone.

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I've owned all 3 Miata generations. If 'character' equates to noise, shudder and shake you're correct that the NA wins. My NC can do anything my NA/NB could and more (with comfort and confidence).

It may be a bit more complicated, but there's nothing that I haven't taken care of myself.

PS
Cue Rogue with the Ford comment! ;)

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

Quit passively hitting on me sweetie!

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Sorry, I thought it was blatant. I love you JoJo!

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Originally Posted by OZMDD

Sorry, I thought it was blatant. I love you JoJo!

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You don't love me, you just love my money (or lack thereof)

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Originally Posted by black roadster

I'm sure it a fine car, handles well and everything but it's that approach to perfection that makes it lose it's soul or character.

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Sorry... came late to this thread ... as the other S2000 owner here....

William, I find it interesting that the flaws and imperfections on the Miata give it "character" while any flaws and imperfections on the S2000 make it soul-less... As Iain has said (way better than I could have), it's a pretty fun car to take out and flog around while still being a good daily driver. I just think the "soul-less" comment is a bit weak.

At the prices these things are going for my 94 R is becoming to valuable to sit in the parking lot at work. My dad's pos 92 with duct tape top sold for $3000 lately, sheesh.