You need to consult with the folks at Lone Star Miata Club! Honda Boy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave04
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You need to consult with the folks at Lone Star Miata Club! Honda Boy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave04
I don't think so...................Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave04
When the club started it wasn't a requirement.
Around 1998-99, a certain member sold his Miata and was informed that he could no longer be a member. I don't recall that the rules ever changed, but he left in disgust :(
Just my opinion, but a "splinter luncheon" outside the official luncheon seems like it could appear divisive.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMerv
Or did you mean it as a demonstration of how to have fun without being subsidized by club funds? If so, will the membership see it as such?
Merv,Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMerv
I hope what I said earlier in this thread wasn't interpreted as an attack on your idea. I applaud and encourage you to work towards uniting the disparate groups of Miata enthusiasts here in DFW. If anyone can bring the tribes together, it'll be you. :wink:
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Originally Posted by redmenace
Actually, it was the $15 per person. If my "family" includes six, that's $90, but I do understand what you're saying. Bill suggested the same thing.
There are NOT presently provisions for proxy voting. May be a good idea, but a little late for this election....
You do not have to own a Miata to join. Club poicy has been that we seek out Miata owners for membership, but do not turn away others, except for Honda owners (just kidding).
In order to attend and vote, you will need to get your reservation in. If you have submitted your membership form, you also need to contact me at billccsi @ hotmail.com to get e registration package.
I know that this is last minute for you guys, but this meeting has been in the plans for months. Too late to make changes to accomodate you.
Any questions, see my email above, or call me at home, 888 536 5577, toll free, day or evening (before 11:00 please).
I will be putting in my request for day off to drive up for the meeting tomorow. I will also be filling out the online membership form today and getting that taken care of. I hop all of this will work out the way Merv has planned.
If you shoot Bill an e-mail. You'll get the package right back. The return envelope is even "TCB approved" ....Postage paid :DQuote:
Originally Posted by billccsi
See you there......
Jerry
Wierd. That's a transmission shop and they don't know you. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by billccsi
Questions I have are...
Can we sign up and vote on election day? If not, when do we have to have our apps in?
Are there additional costs for couple or family memberships?
What are your thoughts as acting President on Merv's ideas?
How do you think the current membership will respond to all the plans mentioned above?
[QUOTE=black roadster]Wierd. That's a transmission shop and they don't know you. :confused:
Questions I have are...
I was trying my darndest to stay out of this but since you asked:
Can we sign up and vote on election day? If not, when do we have to have our apps in?
Yes, if you pay the yearly dues and become a member.
Are there additional costs for couple or family memberships?
Yes and no:one membership is one person.
What are your thoughts as acting President on Merv's ideas?
Actually Bill is still President so he can answer that for himself.
I however will answer as the outgoing board member.
My thoughts are that other than not having meetings, nothing changes. LSMC is totally dependent on the membership for activities. There are no restrictions nor have there ever been regarding LSMC activities other than "open wheel" and "timed" events because of insurance and these can be done if a Rider (very expensive) on the insurance is obtained. If no one plans things then nothing is done. Should Merv be successful in bringing a bunch of new members that want to plan things then these will happen but they could have happened anyway.
How do you think the current membership will respond to all the plans mentioned above?
If they read Merv's original post they would possibly be offended but fortunately most are not into the internet. I think they would therefore respond to someone planning new events and participate in some of them. I don't think the meetings will be missed by most of the club members.
I hope this answers your questions.
Carl Long
yawn.. can't dfw just have kick ass roadster shows like the so. cal guys
I agree with the people saying that we already have everything that the proposed changes would bring about. Being a college student I don't really have alot of time and particularly funds to devote to a club with fees and whatnot, especially gas money driving out to places like where this meeting is held(while I don't have a problem going out to Mineral Wells for an autox lol). The only real changes I might like to see in the future is like deals with the S2K club or other auto-x bodies for discounts for MME members or something like that, or maybe even a magnet or sticker or something I could throw on for an event. We pretty much are responsible for our own tech days, drives, and things like that... thus the Events and Drives forum as well as the impromtu events forum. It is up to the members(read: us) to hold events and whatnot, just like someone had already mentioned, but only in reguard to LSMC.
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Originally Posted by JDMClassic
Double yawn.. Because no one steps up and plans them.
As usual, those that complain the loudest are the ones that want someone else to do the work.............
You don't have to agree with me. I never expected that. I just would like to see some harmony and give EVERYONE a chance to see other sides of the Miata culture, and maybe even try something new.
I'm all for trying something new. If I'm free on Saturday, I'll try to support ya Merv. I have no idea what LSMC used to be like, but if it's nothing like the present then it sounds interesting to me.
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very true.. i'm way more into spending my time working on my mazda. i have absolutely no desire to do any club planning..Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMerv
i just think it would be cool for guys to get together and show off thier cars w/ out having to deal w/ political jargon like voting and paying dues to be a part of some club.
i guess it just sucks cuz we have no local vendor/shop that caters to miata owners in the dfw area whom would normally do this kinda thing for us. ie: RSpeed, CorkSport, FlyingMiata.
and so MME was born....Quote:
Originally Posted by JDMClassic
We do have Track Dog RacingQuote:
Originally Posted by JDMClassic
True but TDR is a one man shop. Gary has no plans or desires to get any bigger than that and I know he has his plate full running his first business and now the TDR business.Quote:
Originally Posted by jolberry
Mea Culpa... no wonder my phone has been sop quiet. I transposed office number with my home number.
The HOME number is 888 539 5577. Yep... double checked.
Call me day or night (before 11:00pm please) I will be out most of Thursday, but voice-mail or GF mail will get the message to me.
My aplogies...
To participate on the 21st, I do need your reservations. Email me at billccsi @ hotmail.com, and I'll forward a package to you. I HAVE TO HAVE A HEAD COUNT TO ARRANGE THE PROPER SIZE ROOM.
ATTENTION PLEASE... I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT SOUTHFORK IS SERVING A BUFFET, AND THAT WE WILL BE CHARGED PER HEAD IN THE ROOM. I WILL CONFIRM THIS IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
Before the bitchfest starts, the CLUB made the decision to do this as an annual activity instead of our usual Christmas party. This decision was Made in OCTOBER. All of these plans were made before any of this was born.
I'm sorry that some of you are put out... just think...next year, you all get a say!
Seriously, I look forward to seeing all of you come on out.
Are you saying that we CAN't come in, can't vote, and I can't give my speech if we don't pay to eat? I'm sorry, but that is just STUPID! I guess there will be more happening in the parking lot than just a picnic lunch.......
Merv,Quote:
Originally Posted by billccsi
I think this is what he said. 24 hours has not gone by. Stay tuned and stay calm.
Carl
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Fight the Power Madmerv!
And in my eyes it is GOOD!Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
But more power to you Merv.:clap:
before i send in my 30 dollars membership fee i would like to know if it is going to allowe me to vote.
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Originally Posted by WhiteLightning
Yes. It will, even if you do it at the meeting, which I would recommend....
But if you plan on doing it at the meeting, don't forget to make reservations and bring extra cash for the lunch. I am getting the distinct feeling that anyone showing up at the meeting without their name on the list will not be able to get in the door to vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMerv
ok i was just making sure. I will be going then....look forward to see everyone else that is going as well. Good luck Merv
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Originally Posted by Titus
Where in the world is that coming from? There has been nothing stated in any of these posts that would even remotely suggests that (yet).
This is the first time in a long time that LSMC has used a facility like Southfork for anything. Southfork operates their banquet facilities much like hotels. For a buffet they count heads to generate the final invoice (there is usually someone with a counter discretely counting). Until Merv's surprise announcement this was not a problem. I'm not sure how this will be handled as I'm not the election judge but it will be dealt with. It is better to find these things out ahead of time as your new club could have suffered serious financial penalties. I don't think you want that, do you?
Carl Long
Stated on the last pageQuote:
Originally Posted by billccsi
Well,
I'm not interested in paying $15 for a lunch, $30 if I bring the wife. However, I will join and vote if I can do it just for the cost of membership to LSMC.
I hope someone will clear this up soon.
BTW, somewhere I still have my LSMC nametag. Wonder if I can find it. ;)
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Originally Posted by WhiteLightning
I'm sorry, but there is nothing in the quote from Bill Preston that implies a list, a refusal to allow entry or an attempt to limit votes. Why would LSMC want to keep anyone out? I say again, this possible financial "hit" will be dealt with. There is a possible problem with the venue selected and that is all Bill was trying to say. We are not sitting up nights trying to kill this movement!
added: We could have easily done that by not allowing a non-member to run for office.
Carl
Carl-Quote:
Originally Posted by mosmiles
I am not upset about this. I understand the situation the club is in, but everything on the LSMC site and the posts here have implied that the voting will take place inside the buffet room during lunch and and the club is responsible for planning ahead and paying for each head in the room. As Bill said:
Now I would hope that some arrangment could be made for those that want to be a part of the meeting without eating, but that solution has yet to be offered. Perhaps an officer could take a stack of balots out to the parking lot, but that would seem to just add to the sense of division.Quote:
To participate on the 21st, I do need your reservations. Email me at billccsi @ hotmail.com, and I'll forward a package to you. I HAVE TO HAVE A HEAD COUNT TO ARRANGE THE PROPER SIZE ROOM.
ATTENTION PLEASE... I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT SOUTHFORK IS SERVING A BUFFET, AND THAT WE WILL BE CHARGED PER HEAD IN THE ROOM. I WILL CONFIRM THIS IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
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Originally Posted by billccsi
I guess we will just take Bill's post apart piece by piece. The problem was not a problem until Merv stepped up with his request to nominate himself. I don't think the club screwed up, it just appears that way. Who could have known the interest this election has generated. In October some of us were even wondering if we would have an election. The use of Southfork was an attempt to Jazz it up so to speak and get our members out.
Carl
That's why Geico is soooo simple to use - no club elections!
(substitute "MME" for "Geico" and you may get my point :wink: )
Yes Iain, we know you don't like "official" clubs with dues and elections. Can we move on now? :rolleyes: ::Clown::Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
He must've had a bad experience sometime in his life. :punchout:
Just an FYI he is not alone in his beliefs, many share his views, although most of us would never admit that even in a court of law!Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
:clap: :clap: agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
OK guys. This is EXACTLY what I didn't want to happen. I started this because I think I can make a difference without causing havoc. There is no reason we need to pick at each other because we don't have the same opinions. READ MY FIRST POST! I was just informing everyone what I planned on doing, inviting everyone to come and see what it's about, and hoping for some support, never expecting everyone to agree. We've had both positive and negative responses, as always. If you don't like what I'm doing, do your own thing. If you do, I hope to see you next Saturday.
Merv