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Since I sold the Miata I now no longer own an autocross car. :) Anyone got an open seat they wanna whore out to a trusty amusing tire warmer? Preferably something more fun than my wife's automatc Protege (see: most every car made). ;)
Thanks and I'll check back here later tonight for responses and emails to me (boxsterracer139 at y a h o o . c o m)
Thanks :)
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So what's this surface like and where is it again? :)
Since I was given a co-drive last week, I can pay it forward this week. My shocks are crap, but my tires are new. Just PM me if you need the ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by miata_racer
The surface is asphalt. I expect it to be better than TMS, but not as good as Mineral Wells.
Whoa there! What in the world is good about the surface at Mineral Wells except the size?!?! I'd take the TMS surface any day. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by jrj512
If you think you have a lot higher grip at Mineral Wells the Vorshlag guys have data acquisition to argue that. Plus, you have to compromise your line at Mineral Wells to stay out of the marbles.
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Originally Posted by jrj512
See what happens when you work corner with Miatamoto just once? :punchout:Quote:
Originally Posted by Miatamoto
I was referring to the TMS bus lot, not the TMS road course. To which are you referring?Quote:
Originally Posted by Miatamoto
Man, this thread is going all over the place!
I burned my apple pie today. Daymn oven.
No sh*t! I thought we were going to talk about Pink Floyd! :bounce:Quote:
Originally Posted by jrj512
Happy birthday Sammm!
Oh wait. . .
You should have tightened that oil line on that turboQuote:
Originally Posted by cone-cerned
Stop rubbing the Floyd so much and won't be Pink.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
a swing and a missssssssssssss................ ::Paul::Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
I'm referring to the bus lot surface. I like it, it's consistent, gravel free and easy on tires. BTW, isn't the surface at Heartland Park supposed to be similar?Quote:
Originally Posted by jrj512
Similar. It's asphalt and relatively flat. However, I felt that Heartland Park offered more grip... at least until you get off line and into the dust! ::Drive2::Quote:
Originally Posted by Miatamoto
I fully agree with your points about the bus lot and I understand that the first two points reference grip, but in regards to the grip offered by the actual surface material, I think Mineral Wells has more grip than the TMS lot. I also hate the Mineral Wells chews up tires, but I'll just live with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miatamoto
Of the three locations at which I have raced, Mineral Wells is now my fav. TMS is probably second, and Bedford is third. The only thing Bedford really has to offer is being closure to home (<10 min) and more food options (which matters less now that I usually bring a lunch). Still, I like moving around from site to site, so I'll take it where I can get it.
I prefer MW to TMS as well, primarily because you can run larger, faster courses out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrj512
As for Pennington - if we never run there again, I won't shed a tear. The lot is too small to stage a really good course, and now that Nationals is on asphalt getting seat time on a concrete surface is irrelevant.
I love the courses at Mineral Wells, I just don't like the surface. Too bad I moved here after they stopped running courses at the west lot at TMS.Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
So where do we meet for coffee tomorrow morning and who'll be there?
Yea what he said! ::Banana::Quote:
Originally Posted by Darron65
I'll be at the McD's at 121/Beach around 7:30. Closest one on my way to LaGrave. YMcDMV.
Think I found a place: Corner Bakery Cafe is just 1 mile from the ballpark; 615 Main Street. Sundays, they open at 7. How does 7:30 sound?
I like the idea of the Corner Bakery, but I guess it really does not matter one way or the other.
That's on my way also see ya in the AM!Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
Your map shows 615 N Main which is less than one block from the event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darron65
615 Main, on the other hand is about 1 mile south of the event.
Either way, I'll be there when they open since it is on my way and sounds much better than McGriddle and grease.
It is at 615 Main Corner Bakery Cafe Map
I should've 'splained it better... The red star on my map marks La Grave Field and the #1 at the bottom of the map is where Mapquest thinks the Corner Bakery Cafe is located. I like your map better.Quote:
Originally Posted by onething
I'll try to find it in the am.
If I can find either one of these places, I might be by for breakfast.
I'm gonna try to make it to the Corner Bakery, then.
That was a pretty fun course today. I like the site and the surface. The light poles looked a little scary during the walk through but I never saw them during the runs.
Huge thanks for Mark52 for the co-drive! The car was a blast to drive. A NB motor in a NA is a great combo.
It was a fun course and the new venue is worth repeating! Hopefully it will be a regular next season. Tire class was a battle today with 18 entrants! ::Flag:: Nice to see everyone, yada, yada, yada.
The shocker of the day was Robert showing up in the yellow '04 S2K he bought a few days ago. Very nice car! :clap:
Then why did you keep starting Mark52's car on fire??? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Miatamoto
SoloRX7 and the rest of the orange shirt clad kids did a great job today! Hope we see a few more events at Graves next season!!! :clap:
That's it? No details? Heck man, I'm waitin' to hear details! It's a long way from here to there.
BTW, been doin' this stuff for over 20 years, and today is the first time we ever had an event shut down by the cops...new venue, complaining neighbors, cops didn't care that we were breaking no laws since the noise ordinance is only in effect between 10PM and 10AM. We didn't start till 11 AM. Cops were nice about it and asked us to kindly shut it down to appease the neighbors. I didn't even get to start the motor... So, my autocross day is vicariously depending on you guys...
Thououghly enjoyed the new site! The light poles were pretty much a non-issue and the surface was pretty good. Could have used some more strategically place fire extinguishers, though;)
Anybody want to theorize why my engine started puking oil out of the cam cover breather? I know Thomas and I were winding it up to near 8k rpms at a couple of places on the course. Could that have something to do with it?
An oil catch can is on order, now, but I'd like to find the root cause of the problem, too.
Allright, which one of you :cat: moderators changed my signature::Banana::
I liked the place, too. I forgot all about the light poles when driving. I think they should move some of the Bedford events to this location.
Not a whole lot to say other than 18-wheelers parked on the track that morning and issues with the timing lights that held things up. The 18-wheelers were moved at the last minute, and as for the timing lights, well s**t happens. I think Sammm and POS covered the rest about cars catching on fire and Robert (whose name we will never mention here again, the traitor ;) ) getting a beautiful new S2000.
I would like to see ER consider moving Bedford races to this location, too.
Good to hear folks thinking it is an acceptable site. Did the course flow well, was it fun to drive, and how long was it...timewise?
Every one I talked to liked the site. Plenty of room, and like a few already mentioned, the light posts were a non-issue while driving. Course was fun and fast with some tricky transitions and turns. Stock Miata's were running low-mid 60's for the most part.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzCop
I heard the rental fee for LaGrave was $1,000. How does that compare to BMS, Bus Lot, and MW?
I was told LaGrave costs more than BMS & MW, but less than TMS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark52
HATED IT!!! ABSOLUTELY HATED IT!!!
;)
Well, maybe not that much. I guess I was expecting more.
I thought the tires we ran had more life in them, we were wrong. Fought for front end grip all day.
The site was a LOT rougher than I was expecting. Surface seems comparable to Topeka, pretty slippery but got better as more cars ran on it. The cross over, dip, between the lots should have been taken a little slower. Some parts of the course felt rougher to me than parts of MW we tend to always seem to run on, especially the finish straight to the kink. Course was around 56 sec for me and 60+ for most stock cars. It shined up and smoothed our tires like the bus lot does.
And the ditches, drainage dips, in the paddock and grid lot were definitely a pain to maneuver around, though.
The cost should come down next year, hopefully.
SpinOutF500
I thought it was a good site and pretty good course, fast and fun!. Ran in the first heat and slid around a bit..but still fun. 3 runs was a bummer, but understandable. Glad the trucks finally left and the full course was restored. Those big fast sweepers are lots of fun.
Easy to find location and only 65mi. from home. Bathrooms are a plus too!
Prior commitment had me bailing early and thus DQ myself for not working my heat, but at least I got my runs in. Wished I could have seen you guys run on it.
I think it would be great to run at night there next summer, seems to be pretty well lit, but not sure about any extra cost and/or noise restrictions.
Had a good time running with the novices this season. Still up in the air for next season though. ES or TES or STS2 (good to have choices!).
Thanks to all. Good times. Good times!