Which do you prefer and why?
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Which do you prefer and why?
As in head unit or service... 'cause I thought both of the previous services merged into one.
I have been thinking about it too. I love the Sirius that I get at home via Dish Network, but XM has MLB so I'll probably get XM if I get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
IIRC, your good friends the FCC nixed the deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
Thinking of adding it to my Sony HU. It's XM ready but I think they have units to make it work with Sirius too. I threw HD in there as it is another available option although it would require me to get a new HU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
BTW, can you run multiple devices off one account? Say if I had Sat Radio on my HU and a portable model?
Both XM and Sirius is $12.95/month for the first headunit and $6.99 for each one after that. HD is free.Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
I didn't know that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Nothin' wrong with a little competition for each provider! :D
I like Sirius for Stern, NFL, Nascar, and I personally think that the music channels are better. Just my ::2Cents::
I have XM and think it has more varieties of music from the lists I listen to, but I like the fact that Sirius offers the lifetime service, if you can afford it. Some of the newer Sony head units are able to use the Sony HD radio tuner. I really like the ability to listen to the same radio channels in the middle of nowhere.
I have heard the HD radio on a home unit and the stations are more numerous, but the unit I had did not tune in the HD channels very well. The signal was a little week in Allen and HD frequencies do not travel near as far as analogue.
As far as sports and talk radio, Sirius is by far the way to go, but who needs a stereo to listen to that??? Why not get a short wave radio and listen to all the free sports and talk you want.
On another note, Sirius offers the backseat TV for the kids entertainment.
I think that the XM Navtraffic is a neat option, but have not wanted to spend the money.
I am about a month and a half away from deciding which service, if any, I will switch to. I got Screwed by an XM screwup and have not been happy with their billing department. I purchased a 5 year agreement before they upped the price and they somehow used my money to pay for two years of service without my knowledge and said they used it to pay down the other four recievers. I got them to give me a free year of service, but I am still short by two years.
I got Sirius because of NFL and Stern. Music-wise, I think it's a wash. I love having it on long trips - the iPod gets a little boring sometimes. IIRC, I had a choice when I got my Alpine (it just says "Sat Radio Ready" on the unit), but I never could locate an XM box for it.
Last I heard, the merger was still pending...
BTW, Earmark installed the Sirus for me... nothing shows and the reception is perfect.
XM has more ground repeaters... so you may be able to get service in your office building or home.
My last office had good XM reception and I was in the middle of the building.
And both services let you listen online if you have a subscription...Quote:
Originally Posted by XM_Rocks
Sirius all the way! Better stations, better programming. Especially if you like EDM!::db2:: Sirius gets all the big name DJ's for shows and live broadcast.
btw, XM sucks! :P
Is that out yet? Clayton was pumping that at the 2004 CES conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio-Active
The IT folks cracked down on that here where I work. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
They both have good points and bad points.Quote:
Originally Posted by icepenguin66
Your posts above makes me think you havent spent much time with XM.
XM has deeper playlists and more bandwith so they dont have to compress their streams.
XM has Artist Confidential and Bob Dylan's show which is great.
My wife is also a huge Howard Stern fan but after listening to Sirius on the web she chose to stay with XM because of the music. Then we subscribed to Howard TV for her fix. :D
XM also has a commited DFW Traffic Channel... Sirius shares Houston and DFW the last time I checked.
I agree that Sirius has more mainstream music.
It will be great if the FCC approves the merger! Then maybe both companies can survive.
I personally have been an XM subscriber since 11/2001 (one of the first 5,000)... I also held lots of shares in XM and a few in Sirius between 2003 and 2006.
At one point I dialed in to every quarterly conference call.
A word to the wise... dont prepay for over a years subscriptions. Also dont feel bad about negotiating a monthly rate. Both companies are hurting for subs.
I had Sirius for a few months when I bought the Integra (mooching off my brother's account ;)) and I really enjoyed it. I previously had XM, and personally, I like Sirius much better. Doubt I'll pay money every month to listen to the radio when I have an Mp3 capable head unit, though... :D
To these points...Quote:
Originally Posted by XM_Rocks
Personally, the whole reason I chose satellite radio in the first place was because I really hate DJ chatter. I want to listen to music and not some stupid idiot on the radio wasting time cutting up about his stupid shenanigans.
I don't care for talk radio and my music interests include much more than what is offered on the FM broadcast band.
I have had XM since before Sirius was offered in the Dallas area.
One of the new advantages that XM has that will keep me with them is the new mini-tuner card that alows you to take a Gameboy sized cartridge and place it in several different radios to where you can have a single subscription on multiple radios.
As far as HD radio:
HD radio tuners still have some work to do to buffer the music so that it is'nt cutting out all of the time.
HD Radio... good sounding commercials. :rolleyes:
XM bought a company that was supposed to allow for HD Sat Service... it was going to increase their bandwith by 3X.
It didnt pass muster with the feds and was canned.
It would be nice to have HD quality with no commercials.
I have XM in my car but I only got it because it was free via a buddy hookup. (Full Demo version) Otherwise I'd of gotten Sirius. I have 3 other friends that have Sirius and 2 others that have XM. I have listened to both for a couple of years now; and I perfer Sirius. Sirius programming is far better than XM with less talking. They also offer more uncensored music and comedy than XM does.
My last poing is, it really doesn't matter what you get because Siruis will own XM soon enough. :-D
Exactly... ::Banana::Quote:
Originally Posted by XM_Rocks
I could give a rat's ass about HD Radio since I mainly listen to the Ticket anyhow - so Hi-Fi ain't a huge concern there. There's not a whole lot of good (new) music on the radio here in town (The Edge? puh-leeze...).
Go look at both companies balance sheet and then come back and say that with a straight face. It will be a merger because there is lots of bleeding and Sirius and XM have junk credit ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiataMike
Without the merger BOTH companies will fail in the next 3-5 years, even with the merger there is not guarantee a combined company will survive either.
Karmizan will be the CEO of the combined company because he is very good at what he does.
Once the merger does happen the main gain is the bandwith, shared operating expenses and non-competing for exclusive talent that doomed the business in the first place (Howards $500MM and MLB $650MM).
I cant see how the FCC will see it as a Monopoly with free radio and MP3 players kicking Sat Rad's butt every day.
Net adds these days are deplorable.
Just a quick snippet of shareholder equity... or lack thereof from Q3 2007.
XM Owners Equity = ($660 Miliion). Has more than doubled to the negative side in the last year.
XM Debt = $1.4 Billion and Increasing each quarter.
Sirius Owners Equity = ($540 Million). Again has more than doubled to the downside in the last year.
Sirius Debt = $1.3 Billion and Increasing each quarter.
Both companies are really hurting... bad.
That sounds pretty grim (and I've read much of the same)... but that's why I hope the merger goes through... if it results in the survival of Sat Rad, then we're all better off.Quote:
Originally Posted by XM_Rocks
Since Dallas radio pretty much sucks, and since I like to roam here and there, the Sat Rad is one hell of an option, IMHO. At $12/mo, I think it's a friggin steal. I had the option of dropping $200 on the HD Rad box for my Alpine but, frankly, I don't see the point. From what I understand, HD Radio doesn't get you anything but better-sounding shitty radio stations... :rolleyes:
Am I wrong?
XM, I hear you on all your points... I just wish we could have XM/Sirius (merged) radio just so the whole thing wouldn't go down the shitter like Betamax... it ain't right.
You are right... yes better sounding radio stations... ugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
Sat Rad is very passive so you dont have to spend hours in front of your computer downlaoding and categorizing music.
Just keep in mind XM thought they would have 20 Million subs by 2010. Sirius and XM will be lucky if they can combine for that.
I hope it survives because both offer great services over FM.
Damn, went all techy on me! Ya, I didn't know all that about them. I just know that Sirius has better music if you are into EDM (btw: not mainstream in the States).Quote:
Originally Posted by XM_Rocks
LOL... yeah I was a bit obssesed with the whole industry for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by icepenguin66
I took ~$5,000 and at one time had > $35,000 in holdings.
But alas all good things must crash... and I had an important investing lesson to learn.
Never love a business or stock... well never love them past the time when the stock price outpaces the fundamentals and rational.
I still did very well but as many close to me would tell you I called the peak at $40. I should have listened to myself. :punchout:
XM & Sirius merger approved.
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I hope they will offer the you pick and choose programming they promised for a lower price.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
I also hope commercials stay off the music channels.
If not I am gone.
If the FCC decides to stick its nose in there and regulate content, then I'm out.Quote:
Unfortunately for investors and consumers though, neither company can give much more information about what exactly the combined firm's programming offerings will look like until the FCC issues its ruling.
The thing that might keep the FCC out of regulating is that you can block XM and Sirius Channels and its a pay service.Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
Having said that I hope they dont stick their nose in... so far they have been pretty neutral.