Maverick PCA Time Trials #3 & #4 - Saturday, June 21 at MSR

Well, I got some information on this event back from Travis Howard, the Maverick Region Time Trial Chair:

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Iain,
TT #3 and #4 will be ran on the 1.7 mile course. In the morning it will be ran clockwise and in the afternoon we will run it counter clockwise. The cars will do parade laps in the morning to get familiar with the track. For the timed laps the car will start at grid, have a 3/4 of a lap for warm up then 3 hot laps twice. There will be multiple cars spaced out on track running at the same time. At this time I believe tops must be up, and the fee is 60.00 which covers both Time Trials. Due to the time restriction of have two events on the same day, registration will be limited to 48 cars with tiered entry requirements. First will be PCA members who ran 4 TT's last year, next PCA members that ran any TT's last year. Then anyone who was at the TT 103 school 2008, next any PCA member, then non-PCA members. I believe this event will completely fill up.

Travis Howard

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I really hope there are some spots left for this one! :burnrubr:

So do you have to be solo'd to participate?

No. This is not a DE, and it is separate from the DE program. It is considered part of their Time Trial series, just like the TT events they have at Mineral Wells

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Originally Posted by altiain

No. This is not a DE, and it is separate from the DE program. It is considered part of their Time Trial series, just like the TT events they have at Mineral Wells

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Sweet, I'll try and make it then. I'm a bit scared of an off especially having never driven MSR before.

I hope I can work this in to my schedule, and they can work me into their schedule.

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

Sweet, I'll try and make it then. I'm a bit scared of an off especially having never driven MSR before.

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I've had 2 offs at MSR, and no dammage. If you are going to have an off, MSR is the place to do it.

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

Sweet, I'll try and make it then. I'm a bit scared of an off especially having never driven MSR before.

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I'd be scared too in that fragile little car. :wink:

MSR is one of the more forgiving tracks in the southwest when it comes to runoff, but there are still things to hit so be careful. There will be parade laps in each direction before competition runs, plus you'll have a warm up lap before timing starts. I'd look for MSR video on youtube of the 1.7 to help get yourself familiar with it.

I think you'll be fine, Joe. Autocrossing helps you learn an unfamiliar track quickly, and you've got good car control skills. Keep the red mist under control and remember that it's all for fun, and you'll keep it shiny side up.

One tip for anyone interested in attending this event who has never been on track - make sure your brakes are in good working order. Specifically:

• Pad thickness - You should have at least 1/2 pad remaining. OEM pads should be fine for stock or near stock cars on street tires, but heavily modified cars or cars on R compounds will probably want a more aggressive, higher temp brake compound.
• Flush your brakes! - If you haven't changed your brake fluid in the last twelve months (or you've never done it at all), now's the time. Make sure to use a high quality Dot 3/4/5.1 fluid. Do not use Dot 5 fluid, as this is silicone based and highly compressible. Stick with glycol-based fluids. I'm partial to Motul RBF600, but Valvoline Synthetic is also good, and readily available at your local Autozone.

This event will feature three lap stints at high speed during mid-summer. Make sure your brakes and cooling system are up to par, and you'll have a much better time!

Registration is open!

See you at the track! :burnrubr:

I'm in! the 1.7 is a blast CW and CCW.

Video: http://www.motorsportranch.com/MSR-Video.cfm

I have signed up, but I am worried about my lack of roll bar and harness. They do not require them for TTs at Mineral Wells, but I so not know if there are special rules for MSR. I have email Bryan Bell about this. If I need either of those, then I might have to bail out.

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Originally Posted by jrj512

I have signed up, but I am worried about my lack of roll bar and harness. They do not require them for TTs at Mineral Wells, but I so not know if there are special rules for MSR. I have email Bryan Bell about this. If I need either of those, then I might have to bail out.

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When I asked Travis about this, he said that he believed that tops must be up. Beyond that, no additional requirements for convertibles beyond those at a Mineral Wells TT.

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Originally Posted by altiain

When I asked Travis about this, he said that he believed that tops must be up. Beyond that, no additional requirements for convertibles beyond those at a Mineral Wells TT.

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I can dig it. ::Afro::

I don't think MSR has a rule. I think it is left to the club renting the track. I know BMWCCA will only allow metal hardtops. Others will allow no rollbar in beginner and intermediate groups but no R comps. Most require top up or straps.

I've registered and will run the Miata.

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Originally Posted by altiain

I think you'll be fine, Joe. Autocrossing helps you learn an unfamiliar track quickly, and you've got good car control skills. Keep the red mist under control and remember that it's all for fun, and you'll keep it shiny side up.

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+1 on autocrossing helping. At TDR at MSR last summer, my instructor also commented on how it helps with car control and learning tracks quicker. However, there are autocross techniques that dont really help on a road course, such as the shuffle steering that he kept bugging me about. MSR is really fun though.

This event sounds fun. I'll see if I can work it in. My social coordinator has required more of my time lately- maybe I can break away for a day.

I'm signed up for this one. What a deal- All day at MSR for $60...and no MW road rash. See you there. :D

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Originally Posted by joe.MIATA

I'm signed up for this one. What a deal- All day at MSR for $60...and no MW road rash. See you there. :D

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It'll be good to see you, Joe! I assume you're bringing the Lotus?

I signed up, hope they have enough spaces available.

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Originally Posted by altiain

It'll be good to see you, Joe! I assume you're bringing the Lotus?

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Absolutely. I need seat time in the Lotus- since I have plenty of seat time in the accord. ;)

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Originally Posted by joe.MIATA

Absolutely. I need seat time in the Lotus- since I have plenty of seat time in the accord. ;)

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I can imagine. :wink: Hope it's been a good commuter car for ya!

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TT #3 and #4 will be ran on the 1.7 mile course. In the morning it will be ran clockwise and in the afternoon we will run it counter clockwise. The cars will do parade laps in the morning to get familiar with the track. For the timed laps the car will start at grid, have a 3/4 of a lap for warm up then 3 hot laps twice. There will be multiple cars spaced out on track running at the same time.

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So will it be 6 laps CCW and 6 laps CW? Or just 3 in each direction?

I can't afford to go to Hallett with NASA in June, so this would be a good alternative to get a little track time. Plus I'd like to get some solid lap time data for MSRC.

Six hot laps in each direction, from what Travis explained.

Come on out, Billy! I didn't post up on the NTPOG board b/c I thought you guys were all going to Hallett. I'd rather go to Hallett, but it's just not in my budget ($ or time) right now.

Ok, I registered, but there was a problem getting through the registration process. I didn't even get to pay, but now it says I'm registered, so I can't get in to edit any info. I emailed the contact listed, so hopefully she can help me out. :)

I signed up. I hope I get in!

Got my confirmation email today it says there is a big waiting list and I have until the 16th to pay or I get bumped. Also:

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We will be driving continuously in three groups from 8:00 am to 4:30 pm. At sign in, we will give you a schedule for the day that details your time to drive, work, and rest. Keeping on schedule will be key to a successful day.

Tech inspection will be done on site beginning at 6:45 am. Please plan on being at the track no later than 7:00 AM to check in. Driver's meeting will start at 7:30 am SHARP. You must be checked in and at the driver's meeting in order to drive. This will help us keep things running smoothly and ensure everyone gets to drive for the most time possible. If you cannot be on time, please let me know now. This way I can pass on your slot to the next person on the waiting list.

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Originally Posted by Davidss

Got my confirmation email today it says there is a big waiting list and I have until the 16th to pay or I get bumped. Also:

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I signed up when there was only 20 people or so...and I payed at that time. Today I received the email stating that I was on the waiting list and will have to 'wait and see' if I get to participate... :rolleyes:

I am in waiting list too. I wonder how far down I am in the line?

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Originally Posted by joe.MIATA

I signed up when there was only 20 people or so...and I payed at that time. Today I received the email stating that I was on the waiting list and will have to 'wait and see' if I get to participate... :rolleyes:

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I am on the wait list as well, and I'm a PCA member. :(

I haven't gotten an email one way or another yet, so I sent one to Andrea this morning.

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Originally Posted by altiain

I am on the wait list as well, and I'm a PCA member. :(

I haven't gotten an email one way or another yet, so I sent one to Andrea this morning.

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I responded this morning to Andrea also, in a polite and pandering manner to try and influence the process. ;)

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Originally Posted by altiain

I am on the wait list as well, and I'm a PCA member. :(

I haven't gotten an email one way or another yet, so I sent one to Andrea this morning.

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How are you a PCA member? Don't you have to own a Porsche? I'm on the waiting list as well.

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

How are you a PCA member? Don't you have to own a Porsche? I'm on the waiting list as well.

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I was an associate member with Flyin96M years ago. I renewed. :wink:

I am also wait listed and I do own a Porsche and am an active member.::Rant::

I signed up a super long time ago and I'm a porsche club member (and I have a porsche).

Got my confirmation email last night too! I am SO psyched about doing my first track event!!!! ::Banana::

Well, I got a response this morning:

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Iain,
I am sorry that we only had 48 driving spots for this event. Right now you are # 6 on the waiting list. This is due to we had 6 different things we ranked drivers with.
1. PCA Member (You did not show to be when you signed up)
2. Had driven at a PCA TT this year already
3. Had driven at a PCA TT last year
4. Had attended one of our PCA driving schools this year
5. Driving a Porsche
6. Sign up date

At this time I do not foresee you making it in this event. Please look for PCA's next event on our web site.

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+1 for honesty. Y'all have fun next weekend. :(

Looks like I'm out then too, it's ok I didn't really feel like buying new street tires yet ;)

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Originally Posted by altiain

Well, I got a response this morning:



+1 for honesty. Y'all have fun next weekend. :(

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Ya'll who? Looks like we'll all be excluded for this weekend. Now i'm sure its too late to sign up for the APEX event- guess we could get on their waiting list.....

I'm glad I found a way to go to Hallett. :)