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Jeff_nc mentioned to me that i should look into stance before i chose my coilovers. anyone familiar with stance coilovers? I've been reading all over that people are ditching their flexes for the stance. I can not find anything negative about them. So I guess I'm just wondering if anyone has ever used these or knows anything about them compared to the flexes.
I'm just wanting a setup that doesn't bounce my spleen out and seriously improves the handling.
-Blake
try over on clubroadster.net
I've never heard of the "Stance" coilovers... got the Teins and love 'em. They don't bust my spleen, and they SERIOUSLY improved the handling...
The look cool and all, but I bet my corner weighted bilstein/GC's will outperform them (lol). $1600 is a lot of money for twin-tube"might be good" suspension. Make sure they'll sell you single shocks in case you have a wreck or one randomly blows. That's the nice thing about my set-up. Its not so exotic that when I lightly damaged my car last year, I could get another damper for $100 where I could have been out significantly worse. I was up shit-creek when I had my vw and lost an H&R coilover, and had to buy another set.
I wouldn't be surprised if the valves used in both tein and stance were identical to the tein monotubes. Also, for $1800, those dampers better be rebuildable. I looked at these like 2 years ago, but I asked questions like "twin or mono-tube", will you sell me singles, how high of a spring rate can I use, and are they rebuildable" and I don't remember specifically what they said, but I remember hanging up the phone and knowing I wanted something else. Also, they don't say if they offer twin or mono-tube...it would be a cold day in hell before I'd spend that kind of money on a twin-tube, non-rebuildable shock.
Well i guess i'm considering them because all that I can find about them seems like a steal for the price. You can get a set of these for $1250 with 8k/6k spring rate. (448lb/336lb) F/R. And they are inverted monotube, about $160 bucks for a replacement shock, are fully rebuildable. Able to be custom ordered on the spring rates, and they will rebuild the valving for you. The regular valving is supposed to be good for 10k (560lb) springs. People are also saying that the shock dynos look better than the teins(not that i can say i have any idea how to read the dynos). Everybody running them on clubroadster.net says they ride as well if not better than the Flexes, even at the stiffer spring rate. Guess this is why I'm debating.
I think what i need to do is call TDR Gary and ask for a ride in one of his flex cars. If that seems good to me, i may be able to throw these stances out of my mind.
Aren't the Tein Flexes twin tube?
Pardon my ignorance, but if its 160 per shock what costs the rest of the money per corner for a full set of coilovers? Seems for 1200 you are paying 300/corner for coilovers. so is the spring and perch 140+?Quote:
Originally Posted by nb4lyfe
Three things to keep in mind about suspension parts (especially dampers):Quote:
Originally Posted by nb4lyfe
- You get what you pay for (if it seems to good to be true...)
- "Feel" is subjective. Just because Joe Riceboy thinks it rides like a Caddy and corners like a Caterham doesn't mean you'll agree.
- Racing improves the breed.
I've never heard of Stance. I've heard of Koni, Bilstein, Tein, Penske, Ohlins, etc. Why? Because you'll find all of these products on "real" race cars around the globe. Stance may be the best thing since sliced bread, but I doubt it. When they start supplying parts for F1 (Koni), JGTC (Tein), WRC (Tein, Bilstein), ALMS (Penske, Ohlins, JIC), etc., then I'll see what they've got to offer.
Took a quick ride in TDR Gary's NB. Impressed with the ride. I'll be ordering flexes. Altiain, I agree...stance is unheard of, and probably for a reason.
You should have checked their web site before talking about racing. Their coil-overs are on several (race) cars around the U.S. and Canada. There's only info for 07 listed, but it is a fairly impressive list for a company that isn't as well known as the usual suspension companies.Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
http://stance-usa.com/sus/index.php?...=14&Itemid=111
all I see is NASA time trial and canadian touring car...the rest are drifting. Regardless, enjoy your new suspension.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot
Adam, there is a huge gap between a few drift and time attack cars and a real professional motorsports effort in a competitive series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot
I was giving an example of the caliber of cars that run Stance coil-overs; it took me just a few seconds to find it.
If Stance was crap, these companies/teams would not be using Stance products on their car, let alone taking wins in time attacks, drift events, and Canadian Tour Car events, etc.
Just because it's not known, doesn't mean it's crap. I can guarantee that only a handful of people on this board have heard of the company I will be getting my suspension from for the S2k; yet this company has built one of the best handling S2k's in Japan, if not the world.
Amuse? J's Racing? Spoon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot
I'll tell you when I get it ;)
I got the suspension off my car from the McLaren F1 team because well, caviar and cris, son. I make it rain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot
Drifting is gay, and I miss you honey, call me!!!
lulz
I'm not sure I consider drifting to be an actual motorsport... isn't there some kind of subjective component to it? Besides, everyone knows the fastest way around the track isn't with the ass hung out and tires smoking on every corner...
WTF is "Time Attack" other than individual hot laps? Time Trials? Kinda like the Pike's Peak hillclimb? Can we just call it that and not have a fancy bad-english Japanese name for it? :rolleyes:
::StirTheP
The "drifting isn't racing" argument will go on forever. Formula D is boring compared to japan's D1GP! The Japanese invented the sport and are still the best. They do triple digit speeds while maintaining a drift. It's a race to the finish, but the drift must be maintained.Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
The fastest way around track is still grip driving.
Time Attack is the fastest growing form of motorsports in North America. There are different groups and events running time attack, so their rules vary somewhat. Some examples are: Redline Time Attack, Modified Time Attack, Super Lap Battle, etc.
The name stays.....
it sounds like mario kart.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwag
I aim for the lightning :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mr brg
blue shell > lightning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot