09-Worth the Wait?

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11-10-2008, 12:41 PM
roadsoundlover

09-Worth the Wait?

Guys...feel free to move this if it's in the wrong place, but I'm getting ready to trade in my '01 LS on a new Miata...'08 with PRHT or even the '09, but my question is, is the '09 going to offer enough upgrade over the '08 to make waiting for it worthwhile? Any thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks
11-10-2008, 12:43 PM
trickyrix

From what I've seen, the upgrades look to be purely cosmetic, so it just depends on which look you prefer.
11-10-2008, 12:59 PM
POS Racing

Could be a bit of a wait on an '09, we was told the car we wanted would not be available to February... YMMV
11-10-2008, 01:02 PM
roadsoundlover

What is your reasoning to go with the '09 if you don't mind me asking? Is there anything besides cosmetic upgrades being done?
11-10-2008, 01:07 PM
POS Racing

Yellow being the #1 reason on the wifes list! ::Banana::

But if Obama doesn't hurry up and fix the economy we may not even replace the current Miata. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nails

Yea. Of note:

500 rpm higher redline
no door cupholders
padded arm and center rest
smoother 6spd tranny
better bushings in steering
red tail lights
smiling grill (i wanna be an rx-8 when i grow up)

new colors for silver, gray, and yellow
new sand dune color interior no more pumpkin orange

I miss anything?
11-10-2008, 01:07 PM
Billy Blaze

?????
11-10-2008, 02:51 PM
Nails

If you plan on making the car forced induction later, you may want the 09 because it has a forged crank, fully floating pistons, newly designed valve springs and another 500 rpm to redline.
11-29-2008, 09:40 PM
gabkwong

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nails

the 09 ... has a forged crank, fully floating pistons, newly designed valve springs and another 500 rpm to redline.

so, how much more for all these extra goodies? Is there is a premium for the yellow?
11-29-2008, 11:52 PM
Nails

The features I mentioned will be standard with all 09's. I don't know about the availability of yellow other than in the US it will be called Sunflower yellow and not available as a PRHT.

My personal guess is it will be the color for the 20AE.
12-01-2008, 11:00 AM
Miatamaniac92

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nails

If you plan on making the car forced induction later, you may want the 09 because it has a forged crank, fully floating pistons, newly designed valve springs and another 500 rpm to redline.

So what's a fully floating piston?

Chris
12-01-2008, 05:19 PM
TurboDuane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92

So what's a fully floating piston?

Chris

I think it means it walks on water ::Naughty:
12-01-2008, 05:45 PM
Nails

Floating pistons have free floating connecting pins as opposed to pressed pins. This design allows better wear on the pin and a bit of a higher heat tolerance for higher rpm or FI engines.
12-09-2008, 02:59 PM
Nails

Here's info on the 09 just released on autoblog.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/09/r...sale-in-japan/
12-09-2008, 05:01 PM
Titus

Quote:

Recaro bucket seats upholstered in a combination of leather and Alcantara

::Ton5:: Lets hope this isn't a Japan only option.
12-09-2008, 05:28 PM
Nails

Last I read it was only for European market. I'd love to have those Recaros with red inserts if they make them.
12-09-2008, 05:54 PM
SirHustlerEsq

after 3-days with a FI miata...who could want anything else?
12-09-2008, 07:51 PM
altiain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazda press release

Six-speed manual transmission models also feature a newly developed Induction Sound Enhancer. This amplifies the throbbing noise generated as air is sucked into the engine and reverberates it around the cabin for an even better driving experience.

WTF? :scratch:
12-09-2008, 08:19 PM
creek

Just buy a CD of a LS1 running hard and play it as you drive. Same thing.
12-10-2008, 09:05 AM
CosmosMpower

Quote:

Originally Posted by altiain

WTF? :scratch:

Guess someone had a pow wow with Nissan.
12-10-2008, 11:42 AM
Nails

The air induction aural feedback is somewhat explained on the Mazda Japan site. Click here for their site:

http://www.roadster.mazda.co.jp/

and then on the left side under the blue zoom zoom. There are white menu buttons. Go to the sixth one down and click it. Go to the last sub menu button where the film camera is and click it. It will open a video and about half way through it they show an animation about the new induction. I paused it here and it looks like they increase the cold air intake length a bit. It also looks like the added a new tube that comes back toward the cockpit up high where the hood meets the windshield. I don't know if it is also drawing air in there or if it's putting air out to draw it faster from the the front like a venturi. I don't understand Japanese. In any case, the thing's gotta be removed for a Cosworth Supercharger! ;)

BTW there are two more videos on the site on other buttons. Just look for the film camera.
12-10-2008, 12:12 PM
Darron65

How did Mazda lose focus on simpler and lighter? Tweaking the intake sound with extra resonance chambers seems stupid to me.
12-11-2008, 01:24 PM
mikeytx

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Could be a bit of a wait on an '09, we was told the car we wanted would not be available to February... YMMV

Which is a bitch as they are now on the street in Japan.
12-11-2008, 01:33 PM
mikeytx

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadsoundlover

Guys...feel free to move this if it's in the wrong place, but I'm getting ready to trade in my '01 LS on a new Miata...'08 with PRHT or even the '09, but my question is, is the '09 going to offer enough upgrade over the '08 to make waiting for it worthwhile? Any thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=309938 Several merged threads on this subject from an NC owner in Japan. Lots of little unseen tweeks that most wouldn't catch. Major internal engine upgrades it seems. My '08 may be short lived if money allows for a trade.