Thinking of going out the hallett for the weekend. anyone up for a trip?
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Thinking of going out the hallett for the weekend. anyone up for a trip?
I'd love to make it up, but I can't... booooo. :(
Must resist Grammar Nazi urge... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff_man
I'd love to join you Jeff (man, I miss Hallett), but I think I may head out to Eagles Canyon this weekend instead.
what's at the canyon this weekend? are Eagles Canyon Tracking Days open to the public?Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
Yep. More details here.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff_man
I'm going back to OKC for work in July and August...I can't wait to get out there again.
think i'll hit up eagles this weekend, meet you in okc next month =)Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brg
Well, I'm in for ECR on Saturday. See ya there!
having pads and rotors 3 day shipping so i can have them for before sat. teach me to wait to get parts ever again, never know when your going to end up at the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
I'll be there in July with the BMW club from Kansas City :)
I'm still trying to talk the wife into a hall pass for that event. If not, I'll probably head up there in the fall once the temps cool off a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by goofygrin
Should be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to chasing down my new goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff_man
if will be more fun when i get a 99 head and ecuQuote:
Originally Posted by mr brg
Good to see miatamoto and jeff_man out at Eagles Canyon today. Fun day, and not nearly as hot as I expected.
I also got to drive a C63 AMG today. That's one bad-ass two-ton Teutonic muscle car! ::Banana::
Hey... to those Hallett veterans... is there good gas anywhere near the track? 93+ octane?
I don't think you can get anything above 91 octane anywhere in Oklahoma, outside of specialty fuel places.
Texas is 93 with 10% ethical, Oklahoma is 91 with no ethereal. there is gas at Hallett and on the way. 91 at Hallett cost extra and there is 101/104/110 or something like that, all the stations outside the track have 91.Quote:
Originally Posted by goofygrin
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...nG=Search+Maps
most of the gas in OK is 91 WITH ethacrap... there are limited stations that advertise (and charge extra) for gas without corn.
Just an idea... go to Sherwin Williams and buy a 5gal can of toluene for $35 and take with you and a small 1 gal gas can and funnel. add 2 gal to 11 gal of 93 or 91 octane at the pump and resultant will be 96 to 98 octane.
I tried this a month ago. I put 2 gal of toluene in my tank before a full fill up of 10.5 gals. The car purred like a kitten.
sorry thought ok was no corn
i forgot about Toulene
R+M/2...114
Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
10%...94.2 Octane
20%...96.4 Octane
30%...98.6 Octane
yaaaaaaaaaaa I don't think I'm going to run 27psi into my motor with toulene.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarCar
A very interesting read. It is very well footnoted with petro studies. Seems the more boost you are using the better the benefit you receive from toluene. The F1 guys later had to delute toluene with a 0 octane filler to fall under rules."toluene was used extensively in the turbo era in the1980s by all the Formula 1 teams. The 1.5 liter turbocharged engines ran as much as 5bars of boost (73 psi) in qualifying and 4 bars (59 psi) in the actual race. Power outputexceeded 1500bhp, which translates into 1000bhp/liter, an astronomical figure."http://www.elektro.com/~audi/audi/toluene.html
I'd rather go with the more common methanol injection method if I was going with a chemical additive. Of course, that's not legal for BSP, so I won't be doing that... E85 would be better bang for the buck, but I certainly am not finding E85 in Oklahoma.
buy a 6-12 gal fuel tank, insert e85, buy a hand pump and take it with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by goofygrin
To run E85, I have to swap injectors, fuel pump and retune.
And 6 gallons nets me ~20 minutes on the track.
The evo is a thirsty beast when being flogged.
no you take the extra tank and add the e85 to the 91 you buy in oklahoma. like 2gal per 10 or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by goofygrin
you still have to re-tune, and then you never know the right target AFR.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff_man
OK sucks btw, but you can get 103octane at a couple shell stations in Nichols Hills.
91 at Hallett isn't too expensive, and Mike told me they make no profit on it. I plan on running OK 91 and just spraying 3gph of water.
I usually take a couple of gallons of toluene with me when I go to Hallett. If you are counting on purchasing race gas at the track, be sure to call ahead and make sure the tank ain't dry!
why don't you guys just tune for 91-octane? That way you don't have to worry about bad-fuel either. You should always have a few degrees of spark angle forgone for safety.
P-P-P-Powercard.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brg
91 is for sissies ;)
OK Weekend's done, but I'm not back (staying a couple days so the wife can visit with her family).
91 = $4.50/gal
104 = $7.70/gal
Mixing to make 94 = $5.50 a gal.
Getting 5.5 mpg on Saturday and 5.0 mpg on Sunday = a damned expensive weekend on fuel costs alone.
No knock or other engine issues. Lots of brake fluid boiling though!
Does 91 dilute the octane rating of the 104? Shouldn't 91 and 104 mixed at a 1:1 ratio make 97.5 octane?
I mixed it 7:3 to get 94.