2010 pax

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11-13-2009, 06:43 AM
ken o

2010 pax

http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/rtp2010.html

http://sccaforums.com/forums/ShowThr...=390687#390687
11-13-2009, 07:16 AM
sammm

How does GS end up with a softer pax? ::Rant::

Stupid ::Censor:: autocross!
11-13-2009, 07:40 AM
altiain

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Originally Posted by sammm

How does GS end up with a softer pax? ::Rant::

Stupid ::Censor:: autocross!

'Cause the Mini S finally moved to DS?
11-13-2009, 08:52 AM
POS Racing

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Originally Posted by sammm

How does GS end up with a softer pax? ::Rant::

Stupid ::Censor:: autocross!

Time to get the wife's Civic some better tires! ;)
11-13-2009, 11:30 AM
goofygrin

dang thought my slow times would have given BSP a softer pax ;)
11-13-2009, 02:14 PM
Davidss

http://www.mouseattack.org/pics/autox/rtp2010.jpg

Here are the 2008 and 2009 changes as well:
http://www.mouseattack.org/pics/autox/rtp2009.jpg
http://www.mouseattack.org/pics/autox/rtp2008.jpg
11-13-2009, 04:09 PM
Robert

Just to clarify the chart the old AS/new BS only went up .004.:D

Man did GS get a softer PAX.
11-13-2009, 05:38 PM
ken o

Did the Genesis stay in GS?
11-13-2009, 05:48 PM
Robert

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Originally Posted by ken o

Did the Genesis stay in GS?

Step away from the car Ken. We know what your thinking.
11-13-2009, 06:44 PM
ken o

Muh who hah ha ha ha
11-14-2009, 02:18 AM
762

well I suppose I could go back to TGS or GS, but that would mean losing the coilovers, or every other modification I have on the car that actually makes it fun to drive.
11-16-2009, 10:36 AM
CosmosMpower

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Originally Posted by 762

well I suppose I could go back to TGS or GS, but that would mean losing the coilovers, or every other modification I have on the car that actually makes it fun to drive.

That's the thing that sucks about SCCA sometimes. I wouldn't take parts of the car to conform unless you want to run a bunch of tours and nationals in your car. You already spent the money to make the car more enjoyable, no sense in going backwards.

If I keep the Elise I'm getting aftermarket control arms to get some real camber in the front, forget Stock class.
11-16-2009, 11:14 AM
Robert

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Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

That's the thing that sucks about SCCA sometimes. I wouldn't take parts of the car to conform unless you want to run a bunch of tours and nationals in your car. You already spent the money to make the car more enjoyable, no sense in going backwards.

If I keep the Elise I'm getting aftermarket control arms to get some real camber in the front, forget Stock class.

That's what's nice about SCCA I don't have to lower the car and put super stiff spring on it to be completive but if I do theirs a class for it. Do what ever you have the most fun at. Now if we could only get rid of Rcomps in stock.
11-16-2009, 11:32 AM
sammm

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Originally Posted by Robert

Now if we could only get rid of Rcomps in stock.

It's called Tire Class. ;) I like running stock...it levels the playing field for the most part. Once you leave it's a never ending money pit if you want to remain competitive. ::2Cents::
11-16-2009, 12:23 PM
goofygrin

Hoosiers are so cheap.

Personally I'd like Stock to mean that. No catback, no shocks, nothing but street tire (and yes, I know about the ST* street tire fiasco).

I'd also like "stock car racing" to be just that again, but that's a whole nuther subject.
11-16-2009, 12:51 PM
OZMDD

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Originally Posted by 762

well I suppose I could go back to TGS or GS, but that would mean losing the coilovers, or every other modification I have on the car that actually makes it fun to drive.

So what's wrong with ST?
11-16-2009, 01:15 PM
762

There is nothing wrong with ST, just that the GTI is not really that competitive in STX, unless I really dedicated prepping the car to the limits of the class, which will just not happen due to budget constraints.

Maybe if I was a fantastic driver I would be able to overcome the gap, but as it stands now. A mediocre me is not fast enough to make up the difference.
11-16-2009, 01:44 PM
Robert

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Originally Posted by 762

There is nothing wrong with ST, just that the GTI is not really that competitive in STX, unless I really dedicated prepping the car to the limits of the class, which will just not happen due to budget constraints.

That's pretty much true for any car/class. You have to prep to the limits of the class rules. That's why I like stock because their is so little you can (have) to do.
11-16-2009, 01:52 PM
jrj512

Quote:

Originally Posted by 762

There is nothing wrong with ST, just that the GTI is not really that competitive in STX, unless I really dedicated prepping the car to the limits of the class, which will just not happen due to budget constraints.

Maybe if I was a fantastic driver I would be able to overcome the gap, but as it stands now. A mediocre me is not fast enough to make up the difference.

So what are you looking for, a 762 Class where everyone drives Rabbits with soft-sprung coilovers?
11-16-2009, 04:19 PM
OZMDD

Hs ftw!!
11-17-2009, 01:07 AM
762

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Originally Posted by jrj512

So what are you looking for, a 762 Class where everyone drives Rabbits with soft-sprung coilovers?

Well, actually, yes I think that would be fantastic. No really I have no issue with the SCCA classes anymore. I just wish I knew the whole autocross bug was gonna bite before I bought the car because that could have changed my decision.

Plus, there are always other clubs to race with, and the more open classing there helps immensely.
11-18-2009, 10:37 AM
nealb

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Originally Posted by jrj512

So what are you looking for, a 762 Class where everyone drives Rabbits with soft-sprung coilovers?

no, they call it an " I " class

a class I can win ;)
11-18-2009, 11:32 AM
altiain

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Originally Posted by goofygrin

Personally I'd like Stock to mean that. No catback, no shocks, nothing but street tire (and yes, I know about the ST* street tire fiasco).

Awesome. Except that OEM shocks wear out quickly, especially when autocrossed. Plus, have you priced an OEM replacement shock? I'd rather be able to buy relatively inexpensive OTS Konis than be forced to replace (more expensive) OEM shocks on a much more frequent basis.

"But it's not fair that I have to compete against guys on sixty bazillion dollar fourteen way adjustable shocks in Stock class." Man up. You still have to drive the car, and those sixty bazillion shocks probably aren't the reason the other guy is kicking your ass. Did you know that B Stock has been won five years in a row by cars on OTS Koni singles? Plenty of people have spent small fortunes on shocks in the class, but that money hasn't bought them a jacket.
11-18-2009, 12:59 PM
Davidss

Recently people have trophied at national on stock shocks in AS and SS.