I'll be there (I paid so I'm committed). I'm sure KenO will be there too.
Anyone else going?
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I'll be there (I paid so I'm committed). I'm sure KenO will be there too.
Anyone else going?
LlI'll be there if my roll bar is in the car in time.
I will be there in TTA or B depending on the number on the number of people. Are you running TT or HPDE, class?
HPDE3 is what I'm signed up in, but I'd be TT-S
HPDE3/4. I will try to remember to sign up tonight.
TTB so my lame track record stays for another year. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ken o
schedule released:
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Originally Posted by MikeP-99Z
Dayum! 10 dollars to watch and no grandstands to sit in? Screw that.
In for Saturday, group BQuote:
Originally Posted by goofygrin
i don't want this to turn into another rollbar discussion, but i have never seen anybody pay $10 to watch. never ever. since 2006.
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SixAce
How do you know when to switch from HPDE to TT? I'd like to run a faster pace than I ran last week in HPDE (the last session was fast though), but I don't have a cage and somewhat expect to get tapped and punted in the TT groups.
Thoughts?
When you want to compete rather than drive. They don't push you to TT, you have to ask to be checked off to get your TT license so that you can actually compete in the timed events.
What level of banging into each other and flipping on the roof should I expect? Is it dumb to take this car into TT without a cage or even expect to drive it home? How often do you TT guys end up at the body shop? I know we're not racing for position, but I'm not sure if I should expect to get pushed off track, bumped around, or pitted/punted for track position?Quote:
Originally Posted by goofygrin
I've not done a TT, but since you're trying to get ONE good lap for the day/weekend I can't see why you'd ever need to trade paint. That's not fast :lol:.
What about slower cars playing games with blocking and running the faster cars off line?Quote:
Originally Posted by goofygrin
paging Ken-O
I only have one TT event with NASA. Everyone was very well behaved. Some passes were open (no point). Some people gave me a point. The first session was grid as you want. After they had lap times we were grid by times. This worked well. Only complaint is some fast cars are slower in corners. Just give yourself a gap. You are not racing for position only for time. Toss out a lap and then make a run at it.
NO ONE wants contact. The many of the cars in TT are driven to the event. I am not racing with a sponsor. I will give up the lap if it looks like contact. If you see someone coming up behind you hold the race line and let them go around or point them by.
As in all events safety is number one. To move to TT you should be comfortable with cars passing you, passing cars, possibly running in close proximity to another car, and know what to do should something go wrong.
I think if someone was playing blocking games or trying to run you off line they would be booted. But remember the car being passed has the right to hold the race line.
Thanks Ken, I'm going to request a check-ride so I can run TT next time.
You can get a check ride and move to TT the same day...
What time are we supposed to be there for tech and driver meeting?
It's in the schedule I posted...
Tech is either tonight from 6-8pm or tomorrow opening at 6:30.
7:00 AM 7:45 AM 0:45 Track Drive/Walk Around: Meet at Grid: Mandatory for Groups A, B & Comp License Students
Here's a video from yesterday.
I edited out the part where I let the Miatas pass me ;) (you can imagine my relief to find out that one of them was an LS2 car :lol:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c99dwoezEs
Good weekend! Car felt good. Track got a little looser as the day progressed. My best for the weekend was on Saturday a 1:22.7 setting a new TTA track record for NASA! I will work on video later. Sunday I ran a 1:22.9. Now I need sleep.
I need to get in on some TT action sooner rather than later - looked like y'all were having a great time out there!
Congratulations on the record.Quote:
Originally Posted by ken o
I had fun aside from the break melt-down in the last session. I'm looking forward to getting this car moving around the track.
Congrats on the record, Ken!Quote:
Originally Posted by ken o
"Fun" start to the 1st TT session:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIdFG468e0o
Most of the rest of the session (with my fastest time of the weekend, 1:26.3 -- only 4 seconds behind ken! ;))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrU1D5T073I
I don't know if this works for heavier, faster, all-wheel-drive cars, but I found that an early apex at Big Bend gets me a bit more inside grip due to a slight trough in the asphalt. I can get on the gas sooner that way, but, my car is slow and light.
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I noticed a lot of cars taking that line. When Ken rode with me he told me to take a more outside line. When I had an instructor (ages ago) he told me to hold and late apex it.
In any case, I had to pussy foot around with it all weekend in left hand turns because mid corner the fuel tank would slosh and my car would sputter and damn near die from fuel starvation.
ETA: thanks for helping :) I always have to remind myself that there is a TOOOOON of room on the track out of big bend.
You should carry extra fuel in the back seat then. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by goofygrin
Well Ken would know better than I, and your car is closer to his than mine.
lol, I was trying to be the lone Evo that didn't spill some sort of fluid on the track this weekend.
(actually only three dumped something, 1 dumped oil and transfer case goo and two others dumped oil -- it was tense in the evo paddock after they shut the track down on the second dousing).
and the EVO fire.
I was gravitating more toward the "inside line" as the day went on as well. Like Nails said, I think it's a function of a slower car - the late apex wouldn't have done anything for me except add to the distance traveled.
Well the one car I was following a lot (a vette of some flavor) was constantly going in on that low line. Looking at some of the other footage when the did that they would leap ahead of me (likely because I was overbraking) but by exit I was catching back up. My times were a couple seconds faster than them though, so who knows.
ETA: I'll say it again, street tires suck. lol.
Ken (or anyone else for that matter) did you get any good video? I'd like to compare what you were doing.
Anyone know how the LS Miata lost a wheel?
I would guess the 'vette was taking the low line but coasting through a lot of it, which would negate the advantage of the shorter line. If you have a gutless car like I do you just keep it pinned all the way through with no problem ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by goofygrin
What do you do if you have a gutless driver?
<--- here's lookin' at you kid!
I don't have video from the session with the 1:22.7. But I do for the 1:22.9. I will try to upload it tonight.