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Hmm... Dallas cops in trouble for beating motorcyclist during arrest.
Apparently the guy "riding" (I think my mom could ride a bike better than that) the motorcycle was charged with three traffic warrants, evading arrest, resisting arrest, and possession of marijuana after his arrest.
While I'm not exactly for random beat downs by the police, this idiot seems to have deserved what he got. Maybe next time they should drag the perp off camera before delivering a little street justice?
Why don't they position the cop car so ya can't see the beat-down on the dash cam wouldn't that solve a lot of the issues?? ;)
The guy on the bike deserved a quick, painless death related to fleeing the police, not the sanctioned beating. I think the charge of "misdemeanor" assault is a little light. That's a felony beating.
No they should've just slowly chased him and let him kill himself on the motorcycle. That guy had no riding skills at all.
Yes the cops were wrong.
Probably the same a-holes that harassed Mike.
Dash cams are amazingly easy-to-forget, apparently, or they figure that no one will review the tape. I love that a second dash cam captured another officer repositioning the first one mid-beating so it wouldn't show everything! Coverup Fail!
If this guy deserved a beating for a couple of warrants and possession, what do you think the individual who left that 2 year old to bake to death in a school van today deserves?Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
This is what your tazer is for............just saying. It's things like this that destroy the public's trust and respect for police officers everywhere. Did the guy deserve it? Yeah probably but that's not what cops do they are sopoused to be professionals NOT jackbooted SS thugs out to beat people down, because they got pissed at them. That is not the sign of a professional by any means.
noob... ::Whatev::
Agree on the first count. I only see 3 problem swings. The rest are probably a good idea and/or in response to what the "rider" was doing. Misdemeanor is probably the right call.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brg
I can't condone any cop beating anyone. The guy was wrong to run, but he does have rights. Lets not put all police in the same clas as these "bad apples". Lets not forget that the first people that we call when theres trouble is the police. They risk their lifes every time they hit the streets.
Crap like that that happens like that in Maryland almost daily but at least the cops there are smart enough to pull the person behind or on the side of the cruiser.
+1 The rider was wrong. He can't ride a motocycle worth a darn, and finally gave up. Police should simply arrest him... there is absolutely no call for the beating. I understand they were frustrated, but cops cannot ever be allowed handle a situation like this by beating someone already on the ground. They must be held to a higher standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by jersey
The chickenhawk returns!!! Where you been cheesecake? Tell the family I said HI.
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Color me cynical, but I think we should, in fact, hold cops to a higher standard, now that we have video monitoring. It's a real simple standard. Run from the cops, get beaten by the cops. These guys don't get a free ticket, since we haven't implemented the new rules yet, though. But, I think, going forward, it's a great plan. Now, it will require a cut back in donut eating, since there'll be less exercise, so that would be a downside.
And the media buy-in to warn the criminals who don't pay attention would be good for the economy. Think of the billboards! The super bowl ads! Forget click it or ticket!
It'll be "Stop when told, or get the ass kicking you deserve." Well... maybe that doesn't have a great ring to it. I'm sure they'll come up with something.
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that's what you get when you don't know how to find 1st gear on a stolen bike.
My brother is a cop in Las Vegas. Works some of the WORST areas of that city. He's chased drug dealers, pulled people out of houses at gunpoint, broken up gangs, etc, countless times.
I sent him a link to the video, along with the following info. "The officers were disobeying policy by chasing, they were told to stop the pursuit, and didn't and another officer turned the camera"
His response was basically..they are dumarses and let their egos get the best of them and get what they deserve, as soon as they violated policy they were in the wrong.
Of course he used a bit more colorful language to describe their behavior than I can use here.
I say GOOD FOR THEM. I think they should be allowed to use deadly force as soon as you run. You endanger EVERYONE when you flee the police, and you are showing a blatant disregard for law enforcement. Like others have said, police put their lives on the line to keep us safe. They are the ones that keep society ordered, and when you disregard that, you have no place in our society. I think he got off too easy if he isn't permanently disabled and eating his food through a straw the rest of his life.
Sounds like a hot and sexy weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepinbanditrider
No, really, it does.
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Originally Posted by ray_sir_6
And when the police disregard the law they are just as bad, if not worse, than those that flee.
Our country was founded on freedom from oppression. The intent was to prevent abuses by those in a position of authority, and advocating the police should be able to proivde a beat down any time you break a law goes against that whole concept.
Some places are actually making it illegal to videotape police officers.Quote:
Originally Posted by tailchaser
Ding Ding Ding we have winner folks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel
Where do you draw the line folks? When they are booting in your front door with no warrant because they got an "anonymous tip" that you were hiding drugs :) It happens more often than most people think it does (with a warrant even).
I too have been a victim of police fascism. Its no joke the police are out of control and are power hungry above the law attitudes have got to stop. If you can arrest, prosecute, or judge someone you should be held by a higher standard and face even greater penalties for your actions. But instead it is the exact opposite they generally get off with as little as a slap on the wrist, unless someone does have video.
If someone was walking down the street with a gun and shooting at people as they went, would you be alright if the police had to use deadly force to stop him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebel
The person running on the bike endangered others doing that chase, so they should be allowed to use deadly force to stop him. The fact they let him live and merely beat him into compliance should be considered perfectly acceptable for all parties involved. Me, personally...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yoUaH6wGLs
it should have ended that way!
In this case, the drug dealer would have to be caught in the act of selling drugs, then be seen running into the house, with the police in pursuit. But you are saying that despite this, they should not be allowed to enter the house to apprehend the suspect and look for drugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepinbanditrider
This is not police abusing their power, it's the police responding to the actions of the perp. The guy was fleeing police on a stolen bike, and demonstrating blatant disregard for law enforcement. Were they supposed to walk over there and ask him to please put his hands behind his back? Did you watch the end...he was still struggling when they were trying to handcuff him. He was still trying to get away when the cop rammed his bike.
Next time someone is breaking into someone's house, and they call the police, I hope the cops refuse to attempt to apprehend the suspect cause it would be oppressing the criminal's rights, and it might require that they use physical force (and even unauthorized baton strikes) to subdue the perp.
The cops should get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to this, cause its hard for them to do their job when there are pro-criminal citizens out there critiquing their initial response to criminal actions. It should be as easy as the cop saying, "I decided to spare his life, so we only thumped his head a few times for being a dumbass."
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Originally Posted by ray_sir_6
If someone were walking down the street shooting at people the police would be within their rights, and the law, to protect the people. In the case of this chase they were not only breaking the law (Dallas has a do not chase ordinance) but they also obeyed a direct order to break off the pursuit.
As much as you may not like it, they broke the law.
A guy on a bike is only endangering his own life, really. I don't like the idea of people getting away with crime, but the police were WAY out of line here. Ruins it for all the good ones. If a cop had to move the camera, that tells you they knew they were wrong.
On the other hand, if you'd like to live in a weak police situation, just bounce on down to old Mexico. Seems to be working out great there, eh?
Police have been serving a lot of no knock warrants lately on either the wrong address or based on the info of one criminal giving them information.......the wrong information it turns out big surprise there the bad guys lied. They don't properly recon the situation and innocent people get their houses broken into and held at gunpoint by the police. Or the police get into a firefight with people who are defending their homes against what they think are aggressors.Quote:
Originally Posted by ray_sir_6
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ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Three former Atlanta police officers are to be sentenced Monday for their roles in the shooting death of a 92-year-old woman during a botched drug raid in 2006, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office.
The officers -- Jason R. Smith, Gregg Junnier and Arthur B. Tesler -- pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to violate civil rights arising from the death of Kathryn Johnston at her home.
Johnston was killed November 21, 2006, as the defendants and other police officers executed a "no-knock" search warrant that was found to be based on false information that illegal drugs were in the home.
Police initially said that Kathryn Johnston fired at them with an old pistol, and they shot back in self-defense.
Junnier, Smith and Officer Cary Bond, who was not charged in the shooting, sustained gunshot wounds in the incident. Tesler was not wounded.
An Atlanta Police Department spokesman an informant named "Sam" said he had bought illegal drugs at Johnston's home, west of downtown Atlanta.
Their story began to fall apart after the informant said he had never been to the home.
Neighbors and relatives said the raid had to have been a mistake. Johnston lived alone and was so afraid of crime in the Atlanta neighborhood that she wouldn't let neighbors who delivered groceries for her come in, they said.
The sentencing hearing is scheduled for Monday at 10 a.m. before Chief U.S. District Judge Julie Carnes, attorney's office spokesman Patrick Crosby said in a statement. He said the hearing could last two days.
I support police for the most part both of my parents have been law enforcement and I have lots of friends and family that are part of that blue line but I will not trade my freedoms for what they are calling security.
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They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.