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I need to price a Miata engine rebuild machine work. I recall there is a good machine shop in Ft Worth that does good Miata work. I can't find any information on who they might be. Superpages.com was no help. Does anyone know who they are or know of a good shop Ft Worth or farther west???
I would consider also a used 99-00 engine with less than 80K miles. Only need the long block...but complete and assembled. If you guys priced complete gasket sets you'd know why.
Thanks,
Maniac Mitch :(
PM Rogue if you don't get a reply soon.
How you been? Good to see you back.
Too bad POS Racing sold his '99 Sport, otherwise I would offer you the engine out of his.
I do know where the car is located! :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by jrj512
Day Custom Engine will be the machine shop that Rogue will more than likely recommend. Link - http://www.daycustomengine.com/
Mitch,Quote:
Originally Posted by Maniac Mitch
Are you a member of the Mazdaspeed Motorsports Development Program? If not, you should be. Just send them results from at least two events you've done in the car in the past year - PCA autocrosses and time trials count as well.
I'd call Mazdacomp and see what their price is on a new longblock. You'd be surprised how cheap you can get OE parts through them.
thanks for the post POS....but the link you gave for Day Custom engine is in Richardson. I live 45 minutes west of the West Loop 820...so Richardson is on the other side of the world. I've talked to this Ft Worth Machine shop before, but can't find any notes, and nothing that pops up with a yellow pages search is familiar. But there USED to be a decent shop in Ft Worth...still trying to find it to get new quotes for work.
Sorry about your location I was just letting you know how Rogue uses. I'd think if he found someone as good near him in Justin, TX he would use them rather than have to go to Richardson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maniac Mitch
Just saying. ;)
Yep. We also use John Day for motor rebuilds at Track Dog Racing. Of course he is much closer but he does great work and knows his stuff. He rebuilds everything from flat-head Fords to modern DOHC 4-bangers.
anybody use one of these JDM engine sellers? If so, how did that turn out? who would you recommend?
I know several folks have gone the used JDM route but I imagine those sources may dry up soon. :(
Any used motor is a risk. Just depends on if it is a risk you consider worth taking. If you can get leak down numbers before purchase it would be worth considering.
I've used these guys in the past with good results - a little closer than Richardson. They do all machine work in-house, but they've got an outside guy that does their builds.
Arlington Automotive Machine
511 East Main Street, Arlington, TX 76010-1229
(817) 261-9022
PM sent Mitch
lol @ Automotive Machine in Ft. Worth...I used them once when I had a VW, never again.
I'd drive to John Day, he has a great performance/reliability record. I'd also like to know how cheap the Mazda Motorsports discount get's us a 99 longblock for. I'd join if the price is right, my daily could use a motor.
I may be stating the obvious, but keep in mind to join Mazda Motorsports you have to compete in two events a year. I don't auto-x, but I do go to the track 2-3 times a year. Track days do not apply to Mazda Motorsports membership, at least not as I understand it. I'd love to be wrong...
What happened? They have been in business for years with a great reputation.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brg
The events have to have published (ie, interweb) results with your name and car info....as I understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonieGT
I just signed up and the events have to have published results. So HPDEs wouldn't count if I read it right. If you did NASA TT then it would.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonieGT
I have never updated Mazda with any events in addition to the original submissions five years ago. They have never requested any updates. They have never refused by purshase requests. I don't think they keep up with it very well, so get two under your belt and you should be good for a long while.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonieGT
I went ahead and called Arlington Automotive Machine. Got an old guy who said they don't do many Miata engines, and didn't know anyone who could assemble. I emailed trickyrix about his experience...maybe it was long ago.
If you end up going to Arlington Machine, see that you talk to Eddie and not Ed. Old Ed seems to be getting forgetful...
Oh, and you WILL need to call them for updates on your parts. They will not call you.
You don't have to have results to sign up if you are building your car. I signed up last month and all they required is a picture of my car and to fill out the info if you are in process of building your car. I purchased some parts from them and it was about 1/2 off regular priceQuote:
Originally Posted by jrj512
https://www.mazdamotorsports.com/wcs...07051_1000.gif
D-CodePart NumberDescriptionPrice10-300 BP05-10-300PBLOCK,CYLINDER $1780.90
$1068.33Qty https://www.mazdamotorsports.com/wcs...s/minicart.gif Start DateEnd DateNotes03/03/1998A (BP5C-10-300A) - 98030303/03/1998NB353* -109670
Gasket set:
https://www.mazdamotorsports.com/wcs...08181_1000.gif
10-271S 8AN3-10-271GASKET SET,ENGINE $328.02
$196.77
All this is for a 2000 Miata, just to give you an idea of prices.
There was a time when Long blocks could be had for $1500 from MMS, but those days are long gone. Currently, all Miata engines List for $4135.40 and are $3100 through the Mazda Motor Sports program.
Here are the part numbers:
1.6 90-93: B61P-02-300
1.8 94-95: BPE8-02-300
1.8 96-97: BPS1-02-300
1.8 99-00: BP4W-02-300A
Thanks for the info JBH. I appreciate it. The shortblock price is reasonable. But that price with paying for head rebuild, and the gasket set, is real close to the quote I got from Day Custom Engine in Richardson. I understand new versus rebuilt...and I hate the thought of driving so dang far (I hope my old 10mpg truck will make it there and back twice), but they are looking like my best option at this point. Their reputation is rock solid from what I can tell...and they are willing to ASSEMBLE the long block for me at a reasonable price. They appear to have the experience to do it right.
I just can't lie about what I use my Miata for to get in the Mazda Motorsports program.
Again, thanks to everyone for your input. This forum is great.
Maniac Mitch
Hmmm... Didn't get the email. Eddie is indeed the guy to talk to. They refreshed my '99 head a couple of years ago and did all the machine on work on a Ford V8 currently sitting in my RX-7. They've also done plenty of machine work for another friend. Granted, I haven't needed them since I had the head done, but I'm pretty sure they still work with an assembly guy - not in-house, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maniac Mitch
They do always seem to have a lot of work in the shop, so they're not the best at calling you back, but they had my head ready in a week.
That sounds like a real pleasure to deal with.Quote:
Originally Posted by juxt3r
One cylinder had a problem that many thought was a machine shop issue, the shop disagreed, I had to buy another motor.Quote:
Originally Posted by slowchildmiata
Well either it did or it didn't. There is no hiding machine shop issues if you know what you are looking at. They can make mistakes, but so can everybody else. Wrong bore size? Wrong wall finish? Didn't clean the bore properly after machining?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brg
I have been curious abuot signing up and read your post. I looked on the MMS website and it talked about building the car in anticipation of racing. It said something about needing a racing club memebership card. Where would someone go to get that?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbh
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by juxt3r
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGWAkLVhuVI
That phone doesn't look right... Where is the touch screen interface?
Sign up with NASA/BMWCCA/SCCA, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanP1964
I spent my first year with mazdaspeed while the car was being built out and I started running HPDE's. A couple of autocross results with bmwcca were acceptable competition results to cover the year.
Chris
Identifying issues and getting a shop to make good on them are two different things. I probably should not have written this considering it was over 10-years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by slowchildmiata
Right.... Which is why I was curious what the issue was.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brg
JIS in Arlington..
http://www.jisengine.com/index.htm
Its worth a look. I know they do very good work and will stand by it. Not that Ive ever heard of them having to.
Ive seen, heard and rode in several 4,6,8 cylinder engines come out of their shop, all of which have been driven hard and never had a problem.
They built a friends GSR last year. He spins it to about 8500+ every chance he gets.
I understood they were one of those high-volume lo-cost rebuilders using very cheap parts. Is that not the case???
It's a moot point for this go round. I have verbally committed to Day Custom Engine for my rebuild. But thanks for the update...they sure would have been closer! ;-)