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Starting my research on caging my '99. Who builds cages around here? Anyone not to use?
Also, I would love to hear any advice regarding configuration. This car will not be a spec miata. I want to increase safety and I would like working windows if possible.
Thanks
do yourself a favor and whoever builds it for you, be sure they build it so you can still use the dead pedal. having that blocked is the most irritating part of the cage in my track car. As for suggestions on who to use, i can't help you there. Good luck!
Call Baertrax in Dallas. They are a 4x4/offroad vehicle shop. But they have extensive experience building custom cages.
Josh is the owner and likes a challenge. I would and have trusted my life to their work.
www.baertrax.com
Thanks Hudson, I'll look into that.
I just talked to Josh. He is interested in doing the work.
Tell him John Stone recommended him. BTW:I do not get anything out of this. This is just a great place to get exceptional work done at a fair and honest price.
I'll give him a call sometime soon to talk about it. I'm not sure that I'm ready to drop the car off this week or anything. Just trying to see what my options are. I do appreciate the recommendation.
I understand. I just wanted to make sure he was interested.
For comment: see my thread at the pointy board http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=486975
For a car that will be driven to/from events, this, or at least something that employs the center support like the one in post #6 of the linked thread, seems to be a safer solution than having bars at the corners of the roll bar. Any thoughts on a "street" cage? With a setup along those lines while wearing a harness in a proper seat, I can't see how that would be unreasonably dangerous on the street on the way to an event?
I like the cage in the pics. Useful and stout enough to protect the occupants.
How does it attach to the floor and door sills?
That cage is welded in at all points.
The one issue I would be concerned about would be folding of the bar at the corners of the windshield. It is unsupported and will be weaker than an edge supported cage. The center beam and rear bar would still protect the occupants in that case. It is attached to the A-Pillar on the windshiled so it will be arguably stronger then just the windshield frame so will be safer than no cage at all.
Agreed. At least the X-bar in the door attaches up the vertical support a bit.
Matt Lemons @ Lemco Motorsport did the cage in our CRX. Awesome job:
http://www.lemcomotorsports.com/
Avoid Taylor Motorsports / Taylor Rotorsports. This cage was built by Chris Taylor. Cage PicsQuote:
Originally Posted by MoonieGT
So much fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by modernbeat
Wow. I can weld better than that and I can barely weld. That is scary.Quote:
Originally Posted by modernbeat
This is one of the best cages I've ever seen. Note the stand-offs for the floor mounts in the front, the bracing around the driver's head, and the door bars are window compliant.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...r/IMG_6190.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...r/IMG_6202.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...r/IMG_6196.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...r/IMG_6198.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...r/IMG_6200.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...r/IMG_6203.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...r/IMG_6207.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...r/IMG_6211.jpg
There's also this thread on Andrew Kidd's car. You can see how tight the cage fits on the A pillars, the general load path, and some other little tricks. The only additions I'd make are 3 attachment points from the door bar to the door sill.
Good luck finding someone to do this kind of quality work in Dallas. I see more bad cages than good ones.
If you put the car on the roof, that front bar will bend.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonieGT
Whoa, Lemco does good work. the only additon I'd like to see is a bar from the base of the a-pillar to the fire wall to help save your feet. Edit: He did that on the white Porsche. Go to that guy.
Which is more likely, rolling the car at an event, or getting hit on the way to the event by cindy highschooler texting while driving?
MSR 1.3 roll over.Quote:
Originally Posted by EricJ
I was building this car with my friends, Stephen, Harmon and Fielding before we ran out of time and money. That's the sparco seat that is in your garage, Trey.Quote:
Originally Posted by SirHustlerEsq
http://lemcomotorsports.com/svm/g64/
Blackbird welds the front hoop to the A-Pillar. I think his street cage looks very well built, and looks relatively safe for a street driven cage. I agree that it's not as sturdy as having the cross supports at the corners, but it's far from a fail...
Until the a-pillar bar bends and pins you in the car. You also get no pedal box protection. What's the point? That A-pillar will not sustain a roll-over.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonieGT
The A-pillar is worthless on it's own. But The way it's done on his cage increases the moment of inertia and increases its resistance to bending. Go back and look at post #6 on the miata.net thread (reposted below) and try to tell me that that A-Pillar setup is going to collapse in a roll. It's not.
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=486975
Wow. There isn't a single decent weld in the bunch. Death trap, because you'd be impaled on all those poles when the welds snap in a fender bender.Quote:
Originally Posted by modernbeat
You might ask Gary at TDR who built his Lemons car cage.
I'd check with Janco Products in Wylie. He is a local Axer and does really nice work. Ask for Kurt and their number is 972-442-6558
That was a pre-built cage that he bought and had welded in.Quote:
Originally Posted by motorollow
Kurt will work with weld up kits, or completely custom. He can build light, strong, whatever your desires are, there are many autocross, NASA, and drag cars around with his work, including a miata or 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyin96M